Hey again Paul 
I have, as I said, PDF Pen Pro on my computer, and have had for some time. I 
just kept letting it update itself. 

I did some experimentation with the IRS web site, and here's what I think I 
have figured out, and I think we have it at least as good as blind Windows 
users. PDF Pen Pro is even faster than Windows, at least with Adobe and JAWS. 

I tried using a form that had not been altered for screen readers, and forget 
it. It would read but not edit, at least I couldn't get it to work. However, 
the accessible versions that have been altered for screen readers work fine 
with PDF Pen Pro, using the tab key to go from field to field, just like in 
Windows. This makes me happy, although I may have to bother the Alternative 
Media Center to get out that Schedule C. 

Regards, 
Gigi 
 
On Jan 7, 2014, at 2:20 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:

> Hey Pauul! Guess what! PDF Pen works better than it did under Mountain Lion. 
> I just called up a 1040 for 2010 to see what would haspen. It let me start 
> editing the file. Not only that, it didn't take as long as it does under 
> Windows to load in the file. I might just might try it this year for 2013 
> taxes when the forms are available. You may not remember, but I had all kinds 
> of grief with Tax Act last year when it took me three miserable days to get 
> my Schedule C done. 
> 
> I almost fell over when VoiceOver said EDIT TEXT. I just guessed that the tab 
> key would work for going from fiebbd like in Windows. Now I will tell you 
> that I used the accessible files that IRS puts out for its forms. I don't 
> know what would happen if I try the others, but I will sooner or later to see 
> if we still need special pdf versions for it to work. This sure beats what we 
> had before. Maybe I'll get busy and try Preview as well. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
> 
> On Jan 7, 2014, at 2:03 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Paul 
>> I still have a copy PDFPen on my Mac. I will try it again and see if it will 
>> work now since I just left it installed and did nothing with it for a while. 
>> Since I paid for it, I kept hoping the developers would get the point that 
>> we need PDF ediging. I will try it out again and let you know. I have kept 
>> abbl my programs updated, so if it's changed it should work. 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Gigi
>> 
>> On Jan 5, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Paul Erkens <paul.erk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi listers,
>>> 
>>> I've heard that pdf pen is supposed to let you edit a pdf. Does anyone here 
>>> have experience with editing pdf files?
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Paul.
>>> 
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