Oh, fantastic. Doh. thanks, Ricardo. that *is much easier.

Teresa

On the other hand, there are different fingers.

On Oct 23, 2013, at 8:35 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Yes.  When I bring up the table of contents with command T, I bring up the 
> item chooser with VO I, and find the chapter I want that way.  When you do it 
> straight from the table, it selects the first thing you land on.  I 
> personally fin using the item chooser easier than turning off cursor tracking.
> 
> hth
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> On Oct 23, 2013, at 11:06 AM, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Return key will open books. Then you interact with scroll area, then with 
>> html content. You may get more than one html area with an epub book, and I’m 
>> not sure how that translates to the layout of a book. I sometimes get more 
>> than one html area, and each one is a chapter.
>> 
>> The buttons have no text labels or help tags, so I’m not going to mess with 
>> them for now. I might ‘see what they do” if I’m curious. i’m going to write 
>> Apple accessibility about this issue.
>> 
>> When I try using the arrow keys in the Table of Contents, it goes away. For 
>> now, I turn cursor-tracking off and then bring the mouse over to the VO 
>> cursor when I want a chapter, or press command-shift-left and right arrows 
>> to navigate by chapter.
>> 
>> I have mixed feelings about this app. It’s definitely useable and books are 
>> very accessible, but the controls are a bit wonky iMO.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
>> 
>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 7:39 AM, Richard Ring <richr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> If anyone gets around to trying iBooks, I would be quite interested in what 
>>> you discover. As for me, my books show up in the library window, but they 
>>> can not be opened, not with command o, not from the file menu, and not with 
>>> VO space. If anyone has a different experience, I would love to hear about 
>>> it, especially if you got a book to actually open!
>>> 
>>> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of 
>>> Fielding
>>> Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
>>> richr...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Nothing in the view preferences window that seems to help with this.
>>>> 
>>>> I’d say that when I press the return key on Mail, it takes about five or 
>>>> so seconds to open, although, this last time, it was only I think about 
>>>> three seconds or so.
>>>> 
>>>> I did a disk permitions repair just in case that smoothed things over.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
>>>> built-in!
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 8:47 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Have you looked in the View tab of Mail's preferences? I am still waiting 
>>>>> for my 10.9 download to finish, so I can't confirm anything yet. Also, 
>>>>> just how big a deal is the slow app opening, and does it happen with VO 
>>>>> off? Are there any other major bugs I need to know about? Thanks.
>>>>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also, I noticed that when moving through messages in mail, I get the 
>>>>>> status as to whether a message is read or unread last of all.  I’d like 
>>>>>> to get that first of all.  Any way to do that?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
>>>>>> blind built-in!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 23, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi there,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is not necessarily a complaint, but, has anybody noticed that now, 
>>>>>>> when you are sitting on the main drive volume, Voice Over no longer 
>>>>>>> says “selected”?  For example, with mine, when ever I land on the 
>>>>>>> Macintosh volume, I’d here “Macintosh Volume selected”:  but now, I 
>>>>>>> just hear the name of the volume.  This was the case even when I 
>>>>>>> inserted an SD card just so I could see what happened.  IN either case, 
>>>>>>> Finder gave back to me the name of the drive I was focused on like it 
>>>>>>> should, but, didn’t tell me it was selected.  Anybody else noticed this?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Also, any idea how to use tagging in finder?  I thought maybe I could 
>>>>>>> focus on a file in finder and add the tagging I wanted right there, 
>>>>>>> but, that seems not to be so.  Haven’t looked at Ibooks yet.  Thanks 
>>>>>>> for the tip though.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am noticing that apps don’t seem to open with the same snappy 
>>>>>>> response I would have expected.  I’m using a Mac book pro from November 
>>>>>>> 2009 so that should not be an issue.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the 
>>>>>>> blind built-in!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
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