My steps were for VoiceOver too. When toy double tap and hold, do you hear
"Editings apps"?


On Sun, Jun 30, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:

> Okay, here is the steps I followed, and it happens to me every time on my
> iPhone for S.
> Number one search for place or  get one from my places. Number to simulate
> the location.
> Number three I think it will do this also if you do tracking. Number four
> press the home key again, and go to the app switcher.
> Five try to edit the apps with double tap and hold using voice over. I
> have no idea what you do if you're not using voice over.
> I have had to restart the phone before to make the app  switcher   behave
> properly after this.
> Regards,
> GG
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 29, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa <ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello Eugenia!
>
> I have not able to reproduce this. To understand it better, can you
> explain in which phase it works differently for you? I describe my steps
> here:
>
> 1) Press Home to close BlindSquare
> 2) Double tap home to open App Switcher
> 3) Select "BlindSquare"
> 4) Double tap and hold until you hear "Editing apps"
> 5) Double tap
> 6) Press Home to close App Switcher
>
> That will close BlindSquare.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi again
>> As far as I remember, that is right that it's not just BlindSquare that I
>> couldn't stop. However, for some weird reason, and it may be an iOS  thing
>> like you  say, I have never had this happen when exiting any other program.
>> I have Navigon On my iPhone also, and it has never done this with the app
>> switcher.  However  it wants not to stop  either. So, like you say, it is
>> probably something you can't do anything about.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Gigi
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 29, 2013, at 4:52 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa <ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, try that out. The thing you describe is something that app has no
>> control of, so it's iOS feature/problem. I believe you can't stop any other
>> app either?
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks. I did not know about 15 minutes that it would stop anyway.
>>> However, I am having a problem using the app switcher to close the program
>>> after I go in to BlindSquare. The husband turn voiceover off, and he had
>>> the same problem. I had to restart the iPhone. What happens is using voice
>>> over you have to double tap and hold in order to get into the edit apps to
>>> take them off of the app switcher. However the app switcher refuses to go
>>> into the editing feature and instead opens whatever program you Happened to
>>> touch. If I restart the iPhone, it doesn't do that. This is really weird,
>>> and I have never seen this happen before.
>>>
>>> However, now that I know about 15 minutes, maybe I'll just leave it
>>> alone since I have a for S iPhone.
>>> Regards,
>>> Gigi
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jun 29, 2013, at 12:42 AM, Ilkka Pirttimaa <ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> This has nothing to do with if it detects if you are home or not, it is
>>> just that you have set it to run in background and it will until you stop
>>> it. In iOS 6 there is feature that will stop it automatically after a while
>>> anyway (you will hear it announced when it does) so it will not take
>>> battery more than 15 minutes or so. There might be limitations on which
>>> device models it does this, I think it needs at least 4S model.
>>>
>>> You can always stop it from App Switcher and it is the best way if you
>>> want to use all background features. Maybe someone on this list can help
>>> you how to do it with voiceover.
>>> There are other options too, you can find more info from here:
>>> http://blindsquare.com/faq/#why-does-it-keep-talking
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 2:32 AM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi there
>>>> I am still too new to Blind Square to start saying what I want as
>>>> features. There are some other programs that I can mention, like TapTapSee,
>>>> just to name one, that I love.
>>>>
>>>> I do have a question, however, that I intended to put on the list
>>>> anyway. Has anybody had trouble closing Blind Square? I have had a weird
>>>> problem that if I want to close the program, and I go to the app switcher,
>>>> and press double tap and hold to edit applications, the iPhone wants to
>>>> open the program instead of going to edit apps. The reason I want to close
>>>> it is because if I have put in a destination, and the program thinks I'm
>>>> not there, it keeps talking and won't stop. This is because, for instance,
>>>> my house is at 1019, but the program thinks I'm at 1015, which, by the way,
>>>> is better than some GPS programs I've used. So far, this is the only thing
>>>> that I had trouble with. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Gigi
>>>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 4:23 PM, Ilkka Pirttimaa <ilkka.pirtti...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello you all!
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Eugenia for this nice posting where you describe so well the
>>>> level of independence an iDevice can make possible.
>>>>
>>>> If Apple develops their products with great vision without interacting
>>>> with end user too much, I develop BlindSquare together with end users, bit
>>>> by bit bringing it to the level you could never get by traditional
>>>> development style. I welcome you all to take part of this journey by giving
>>>> your ideas what you would like to see in future versions.
>>>>
>>>> BR, Ilkka, BlindSquare dev
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi guys
>>>>> When I started out thinking about an accessible phone, I never dreamed
>>>>> that I would get a device that would have a GPS like BlindSquare on it and
>>>>> that I could get a restaurant menu on it with a braille display. I never
>>>>> dreamed of a program where I could take pictures of an item in my
>>>>> refrigerator or a can in my cabinet and find out what the thing was. When
>>>>> people talked about the camera, I remember thinking "Well, who cares!" I
>>>>> remember Johnathan you doing a podcast or some kind of presentation for
>>>>> Freedom Scientific talking about braille displays with an iPhone and I was
>>>>> sitting there thinking about what a stupid idea this was to have a braille
>>>>> display hooked up to a phone of all things. I remember saying to myself:
>>>>> "Why would anybody want music, email, etc. on a phone of all things?" Of
>>>>> course, guess what I have on my iPhone these days! I just plain flat 
>>>>> didn't
>>>>> get it what things I could do with an iPhone. I kept thinking of it as a
>>>>> phone instead of a little bitty computer with the ability to make phone
>>>>> calls. I have a blind friend who has decided she will an iPhone 
>>>>> eventually,
>>>>> but she doesn't get yet either. She keeps saying to me: "Well, I can do 
>>>>> all
>>>>> that right now." I guess she won't get it either until she gets one
>>>>> herself. She would love BlindSquare, but she doesn't know it yet. It's a
>>>>> case of finding out you wanted something you didn't know you wanted until
>>>>> you got it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Gigi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 27, 2013, at 5:51 PM, Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> *grin, seriously addicted grin.
>>>>> On 2013-06-27, at 2:13 PM, Chenelle Hancock <
>>>>> filmchenelle1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello  everyone,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been an apple I Phone  user  Since  October 31, 209. When I
>>>>> first purchased  my very  first I Phone 3. g s.  I had never  texted
>>>>>  anyone that I knew with a smart phone. I didn't  have the proper access
>>>>>  to a smart phone where I could text, send email or instant  messages  let
>>>>> alone  download  music and video content.  Without  having sighted
>>>>> assistancevery. So when I had my brand new I phone inside  of my hands. I
>>>>> was so elated  with joy I did not know what  to do with myself  at first.
>>>>> Now  I cannot ever see myself with out one. Now I  not only have an I
>>>>> phone  4. s. But I have a makdck book  pro and a time capsule along  with
>>>>> an I pad mini and  and finally  I have a Apple TV.  That Is how invested
>>>>>  in all things apple that I am at the moment.
>>>>> For the record I will never go back to the Windows  operating system
>>>>> ever again as long as I live.
>>>>> Sincerely,  Chenelle
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