I did,
I asked, if I have no other choice, i. e. cannot get one of the two blackberry phones with buttons and spoken input that my provider also offers, can I find an application that strictly only and simply lets me dial the phone, or if for some rare reason send a text message via voice. I stated that i recognize that the iphone has fine options as a smart device, especially if you have another mac and can use the items together for those goals.
However, those goals are not mine for my cell phone.
Here is a counter example. most of those experiencing sight loss are not braille users. Should therefore there be no options for the few who might? To borrow from a different discussion, many with a limited dictionary about access feel windows and jaws are what *all* people with sight loss must use...so all you discover here about your *preference* for a mac does not apply correct?

If buttons for making phone calls suits my personal preference, why does it mean I find touch screens limitation?
The two concepts have nothing whatsoever to do with each other.
I said nothing about the touch screen being a limitation, it is not my *preference.* I did not mean to jump on you, but this, all blind people are the same sort of logic counters individuality in a major way.

Someone answered my question, there is a way to make phone calls by voice.
end of discussion.
Again I am not faulting the flexibility...I just will use that flexibility in something other than my phone.
Karen
On Wed, 26 Jun 2013, Alex Hall wrote:

I'm sorry if I came off as disrespectful. My point is that, based on your 
original email, your outlook on the iPhone seemed to closely match what mine 
used to be. I therefore offered the tools and options that have helped to alter 
my outlook to demonstrate that what you see as possible limitations are not 
necessarily limitations at all. It would help us better help you if you 
explained your situation more fully. The more detail we have, the better and 
more accurately we can answer you.
On Jun 26, 2013, at 2:08 PM, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

Hi,
I  appreciate your take.  This is just the sort of discussion I wished to avoid 
as you are not me, your communicating  patterns are not mine, and I respect 
your choice....which has absolute zero to do with my own.
I asked the question based on what I desire...and sought nothing else.
I respect your situation, I respectfully ask that you respect mine.
Thanks for the answer I really did seek,
Karen

On Wed, 26 Jun 2013, Alex Hall wrote:

I thought the same thing as you: I can't use a touch screen phone - I can't 
feel the numbers, so if I can't hear, I can't do anything with it. However, two 
things have helped me:

1. You can save everything to contacts on your phone, then just tell Siri to 
call a contact name. You can also add contacts to your favorites, a list of 
contact numbers you use most that you can use to quickly dial a number. The 
advantage of this is that, even if you can barely hear the phone's speaker, you 
can be in the right area of the screen, then listen to something as basic as 
how long it takes speech to say the item to know if it is the one you want. It 
takes getting used to, but I have not yet run into a situation where I could 
not make a call. Hint: I often hold the phone with the loudspeaker facing my 
ear - if you line it up, you can hear in just about any situation, even if you 
don't have headphones.

2. You can save numbers to contacts, even numbers to be dialed after a call goes through. 
For example, i saved a conference call number; once the initial call goes through, I hit 
the "hide keypad" button and then the button to auto-dial my conference code. 
You can also have numbers pressed without needing to hit a button, such as if you know 
the sequence to get through a series of menus.

I'll be honest: I do still find using the keypad to select options in phone 
menus (like those in stores or banks) annoying at times, but the phone does so 
much else so much better that it is a small inconvenience I am happy to put up 
with, and many of those times I could alleviate the problem by simply adding 
the sequence to a contact if I used that number more often. Really, for the 
incredible power and opportunity the iPhone provides, and for how infrequently 
I run into a frustration entering a selection in a menu, well, the iPhone is 
simply the best phone out there once you take a few weeks to really get it down 
pat. No, I have not used an Android phone, but from everything I hear, Apple 
still blows them out of the water when it comes to accessibility. Besides, if 
you already have a Mac, the syncing that will happen via iCloud between the two 
devices makes things really convenient.
On Jun 26, 2013, at 1:30 PM, Cheree Heppe <che...@dogsc4me.com> wrote:

Cheree Heppe here:
Talks or mobile speak recommend button phones which they support.

Regards
Cheree Heppe


Sent from my IPhone 4S

On 26/06/2013, at 9:55, Karen Lewellen <klewel...@shellworld.net> wrote:

Hi folks,
I do not want one truth be told.  My goal is a phone with buttons, and while 
some remain available from my provider, I may not end up with much choice  lol.
I understand from many using the iphone for dialing that it is slow and a pain.
my questions are two, and very strict ones.  do not mistake me, I know it is 
fine as a smart device, but I am 100% firm on what I need in a phone only.
My questions are two.
can I do everything entirely by voice? speak the numbers, if for some odd 
reason I want to send a text, etc.?
second, if I must add a keyboard for dialing, does one exist?  not for typing, 
strictly for dialing the phone.
I type 85 words a minute, I do not wish to spend time poking rapidly at a 
screen  trying to dial the phone.
so, are either of the two work arounds options?
thanks,
Karen

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