The missing point is why they are raising the case in Germany? Not in their own country or USA? I suspect their own country doesn't have as strong IP laws. They have lost a case in the USA against Apple, so are they thinking lets use a different country outside USA to see how it floats?
Who knows what laws are in their own country surrounding accessibility? Sean On 25/02/2013, at 4:03 PM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote: > perhaps apple should break loose of some of their huge sums of spare cash and > simply buy out Samsung completely (its called a hostile takeover). that would > solve a number of problems all at once. > > -eric > > On Feb 24, 2013, at 7:57 PM, James Mannion wrote: > >> In reading some further posts on the web, this is worse than I >> thought. The only article I read earlier today lead me to believe it >> was about the triple click home to start voiceover. IT is not. IT is >> about the very heart of voiceover for us, its ability to read things >> on the screen. An article points out that this is the case and that >> Samsung is not even trying to protect their technology for >> accessibility, they are simply using it as a weapon. So they are >> completely putting us up as a sacrifice for their battles. One can >> only hope the courts will see right through this and consider it >> exactly what it is. >> >> http://www.fosspatents.com/2013/02/german-court-stays-samsungs-voiceover.html >> >> "one. Samsung didn't assert this German patent in an effort to protect >> its investment >> in accessibility. It elected to use an accessibility-related patent as >> a tactical >> weapon. Patent protection and enforcement can be justified in certain >> scenarios. >> For example, if there are two companies competing in the market for >> hearing aids, >> it's generally legitimate for them to assert accessibility-related >> patents against >> each other. I would also support the idea of accessibility patent >> enforcement in >> cases of willful infringement, and if Samsung had only requested >> monetary compensation >> in this action, it would have made a much better choice than by trying >> to achieve, >> through the pursuit of an injunction, the deactivation or (more >> realistically) degradation >> of the voiceover functionality Apple provides to its German customers. >> In recent weeks I have been contacted by a couple of journalists who >> report on and >> care about accessibility issues. One of them told me he's blind. I >> completely understand >> why the vision-impaired are concerned when they hear about a lawsuit >> like this one. >> Maybe there's a cultural difference here between Asia and the Western >> hemisphere. >> In the United States and Europe, people may be more sensitive to this >> type of issue >> than in Korea. I don't think Samsung is evil. I really don't. But it should >> give >> more thought to the wider implications of its retaliatory actions >> against Apple." >> >> On 2/24/13, James Mannion <mannion...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> So incredibly ridiculous too. Block the sale of a product under the >>> excuse that a comman is entered in the same way and then add to it the >>> fact that it does not even control something that is equal in >>> functionality either! There just aren't even words to describe it. >>> This law suit flinging is worse than 5 year olds. At least they have >>> an excuse for acting childish and they are more reasonable when they >>> do. If you can't stand your competition, maybe you just don't make a >>> worthy product to begin with. You know, one that would sell itself by >>> the millions? If because of your competition your sales are less, your >>> product sucks! >>> >>> On 2/24/13, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Join the club, not just for that reason, but the last time I bought one >>>> of >>>> their products, the Intrepid phone with Sprint, I had problem after >>>> problem >>>> with it. It crashed repeatedly, when I did the slightest thing with it, >>>> and >>>> nobody at the Sprint stores I took it to could figure out what was wrong >>>> with it, and continuously tried to blame the Mobile Speak software for it >>>> crashing, which was upsetting to me. >>>> So after about the 4th or 5th time it did this, and this was after I >>>> had >>>> to have help resetting it 2 days in a row, I just didn't reinstall Mobile >>>> Speak again, and decided to pay full price for a 32 gb IPhone, sense I >>>> unfortunately wasn't elegible for an upgrade yet, and wasn't willing to >>>> wait >>>> anymore. >>>> So now my Intrepid is now one of Hannah's toys, and she loves to >>>> pretend >>>> to call her Granddad, and check her messages lol. >>>> On Feb 24, 2013, at 8:47 PM, James Mannion wrote: >>>> >>>>> I agree that I will not ever support Samsung either because of this. >>>>> Nice how they do not really do anything that indicates any real >>>>> interest in helping us to better use their products, but they are >>>>> willing to cash us in as a sacrifice to attack the competition. This >>>>> childish corrupt law suit stuff really, really needs to stop! Until >>>>> this law suit I have not heard of anything from Samsung concerning >>>>> voiceover or a screen reader of their creation that does anything >>>>> wonderful for us at all. Yet such a law suit would indicate they have >>>>> great concern for us as their customers, right? Yes maybe if it >>>>> weren't nothing but corruption! >>>>> >>>>> On 2/24/13, Annie Skov Nielsen <annieskovniel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Hi. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will of course sign. >>>>>> >>>>>> I will also have to say, that I will never ever buy a samsung product >>>>>> after >>>>>> their trying to destroy something that is so important to me. I am >>>>>> angry. >>>>>> We >>>>>> all ought to sign. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards Annie. >>>>>> On Feb 24, 2013, at 10:22 AM, jshandr...@gmail.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Some of you may have already seen this. I know its been tweeted out. I >>>>>>> posted a petition on Change .Org on Saturday. It is in reference to >>>>>>> Samsung trying to block sale of Apple products in Germany. Yes, I know >>>>>>> their is a temporary hold on the decision. I just want Samsung to know >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> attack on the blind community is a bad move. Not only financially, bug >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> PR reasons. It is your choice whether or not you want to sign. I'm >>>>>>> including the link. 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