I don't know much about what's under the hood but yes, Firefox is open source so you could download the code and poke through it, even contribute bug fixes to the project. That said, anybody who has that level of skill at writing code for complex multi-platform apps is probably already swimming in job offers and requests for help. I suspect it's just one of those efficiency things where the initial implementation is simulating the entire molecule instead of the atom or collapsing a kingdom to save a nail. Pick your euphemism. It's easy to get inefficient with complex stuff and that gets weeded out over time. First they try to just get it to work, then work reasonably fast.

CB

On 2/8/13 6:48 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
John, these might seem like stupid questions, but I can't resist asking them. What is it, exactly, that makes Firefox be so sluggish and do the busy thing so frequently? I ask this for two reasons.

1. I know that it doesn't use the same webkit that is used by Lightning, Safari, and Chrome, but having said that, it just seems kind of odd to me that this would be consistently happening. I wonder in general where the leak is coming in, and is it more a processor thing, or more a memory leak.

2. I might have mis-understood, but wasn't Firefox open source, at least at one time in the game? If that's the case, who's to say we couldn't find someone who is blind using Voiceover to have a look at it. Also, I know Apple is very funny about providing source code, and rightfully so. I'd just suspect, wouldn't it be slightly harder for the Mozilla devs to really do much without the coding of Voiceover specifically so that they could compare code back and forth, and maybe in one of the two codes find what is causing the breakage.

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I believe it is available. Firefox is usable with VoiceOver. It is a bit sluggish in some instances, but it is getting there. If you have patience, I would give it a try and encourage the developers to keep improving VoiceOver access.


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On Feb 7, 2013, at 11:02 PM, Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> wrote:

I have another question about fire fox. If it is accessible, I used web vissum (when I used the c) to solve captchas, does is this available for mac?Thanks. On 2013-02-07, at 5:43 PM, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Last I heard, Firefox still was not that great. I hear it was sort of, ish! doable, and certainly in a pinch would work, but still had a really really long way to go. I hear that even on systems with a butt load of ram, it still says busy busy almost constantly. I just wondered if anyone has any more information as for the current state. Is it still doing this quite a bit, or is it pretty much taken care of where now, it is about as quick as using say, Lightning, Chrome, or Safari.

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