Well, thanks! It's good to know. I shouldn't be a creature of habbit anyway! Thanks for your assistance!
You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding Sent from my Mac Book Pro richr...@gmail.com On Jan 22, 2013, at 9:07 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Richard, > > You're right on the mark, not missing anything. The VO-j command jumps you > to the Preview Pane and because you've removed it, that is no longer the > method to use. I've always used the "return/cmd-w" method so it's never been > an issue for me. I certainly understand people's frustration though that are > used to VO-j or other methods. > > Later... > > Tim Kilburn > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On 2013-01-22, at 5:51 AM, Richard Ring <richr...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Tim and list: >> These instructions were brilliant, and now I see message status. However, I >> have a dumb question to ask, and perhaps I'm staring something right in the >> face and overlooking it. Before getting rid of the preview pane, when I was >> in a list of messages, I would press v o J to go into a message, and v o j >> to return to the messages table. Well, this command no longer works for me. >> When I press v o j now, I always find myself interacting with the mailboxes >> table. Is this because in the past, VO j was interacting with the preview >> pane? I know I'm missing something. I can, of course, read a message by >> pressing enter, and return to the messages table by pressing command w. Just >> curious as to the reason for this change in behavior. >> >> >> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding >> Sent from my Mac Book Pro >> richr...@gmail.com >> >> On Jan 21, 2013, at 5:35 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi Richard, >>> >>> Here's the content of a message I posted a while back that explains how to >>> get rid of the Preview pane and down at the bottom of the content, it >>> explains how you can confirm that it's enabled/disable. When the Preview >>> pane is disable, you normally can determine the read/unread status of >>> messages. >>> >>> 1. Removing the Preview Pane in Classic layout: >>> >>> • Navigate to the Horizontal Splitter that is to the right of the Messages >>> table. >>> • Press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if needed). This will bring the mouse to the VO >>> cursor and announce where the mouse is and it should read "Horizontal >>> Splitter". >>> • Double-click on your Trackpad or alternatively, you can press near the >>> top of the Trackpad and drag to the bottom. Make sure in this case that >>> you actually make the Trackpad button depress so that the drag action will >>> work. >>> >>> 2. Removing the Preview Pane for non-Classic or Normal layout: >>> >>> • Navigate to the Vertical Splitter just to the right of the Messages >>> Column Group. >>> • Press VO-cmd-f5 (add FN if necessary) to bring the mouse to the VO >>> cursor. It will announce Vertical Splitter if it did what it was supposed >>> to do. >>> • Double-click on the Trackpad or alternatively, put your finger near the >>> left hand side of the Trackpad, then drag to the far right and release. As >>> in the first case, make sure that you depress the Trackpad button so that >>> the dragging process will occur. >>> >>> Note that in the Classic layout, you are dealing with a Horizontal Splitter >>> and in the non-Classic layout, you are dealing with a Vertical Splitter. >>> Each case requires a different dragging direction if you choose that >>> option. >>> >>> There are a couple of ways of determining if it worked. Firstly, you can >>> navigate around the Mail screen and if you don't hear anything about >>> "Message Content Area", life is good. >>> >>> The second method is a little more complicated but tells you for sure. In >>> Classic layout, navigate to the Horizontal Splitter to the right of the >>> "New Mailbox Action" menu. You'll notice two Horizontal splitters, one >>> after the Messages Table and this one that I'm talking about. Once you've >>> located this Horizontal Splitter, Interact with it and press VO-down. VO >>> will announce "Collapsed" which is what you want to hear. In non-Classic >>> (Normal) layout, navigate to the Vertical Splitter just to the right of the >>> Messages Column Group and Interact with it. Press VO-right and VO will >>> announce "Collapsed" if the Preview pane is gone. >>> >>> See if that helps. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On 2013-01-21, at 3:50 PM, Richard Ring <richr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I honestly don't know if it is, I don't know how to tell. >>>> >>>> >>>> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of >>>> Fielding >>>> Sent from my Mac Book Pro >>>> richr...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> On Jan 21, 2013, at 1:52 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Richard, >>>>> >>>>> Is your Preview Pane active? >>>>> >>>>> Later... >>>>> >>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>> >>>>> On 2013-01-20, at 8:00 AM, Richard Ring <richr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Mine doesn't either, once in a while the reply was sent button will >>>>>> appear, but I can never know whether a message was read or not. >>>>>> >>>>>> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of >>>>>> Fielding >>>>>> Sent from my Mac Book Pro >>>>>> richr...@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 19, 2013, at 10:04 PM, Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, all. Ever since I've had this Mac, VO does not state whether a >>>>>>> message is unread. I have my mail set on classic but even when I change >>>>>>> it, it is all to no avail. 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