Hi Maurice,

First of all, thanks for taking the time to write, or should I say, dictate 
this message.  The dictation was excellent.  I will use a braille display as 
well.  In part, I decided to purchase this from Nuance last week, as they had a 
holiday special whereby I received the software and a USB microphone for 
$99.99.  I don't think the price will go lower than that, so I took the plunge. 
 Now, when one purchases, one has 30 days to evaluate and if necessary, return 
the product, so it's worth the gamble.  If this works out for me, I also think 
it will provide a potential training opportunity since I provide  consulting 
and training services.  I sure hope the Dictate product is comparable to 
Naturally Speaking for Windows.  There was a Dragon Dictate for the PC which I 
believe was far inferior to Naturally Speaking which came later.  One point I 
will add based on the instructions that came with the software is that one 
should not plug the USB microphone into a USB hub; I'm glad they mentioned 
that, as I would have done this as the hub is easier to access than are the 
ports on the back of my iMac.  Anyway, I will be setting this up tomorrow, and 
I will definitely go through the training.  Thanks again.

Les
On Dec 26, 2012, at 6:20 PM, Maurice Mines <maurice.mi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am going to respond to many different things with this one message I hope. 
> Number one, I use Dragon with a braille display. I do also have the speech 
> from VoiceOver turned on. One of the things that is very helpful I think is 
> that you must go to the training that is part of the Dragon set up. To when 
> setting up Dragon please be aware that the default microphone setup is an 
> iPhone. So if you don't have an iPhone currently, you may wish to have a 
> sighted person help you go into the headset set up. Once you find the 
> headphone set up, please do what I mentioned up above i.e. go through the 
> complete training. Now let me move on to one person who mentioned a concern 
> about product ratings in his email to the list. I don't hold much belief in 
> online reviews of products. Because some of the reviewers are not 
> professionals, and/or may have a grudge against the product manufacturer. The 
> reason why I found Dragon to be successful. Is because I used a very early 
> version of the Microsoft Windows version of the same product. And it worked 
> for me was my additional disability. So that is why am continuing to use it 
> now. I'm assuming that the next question is going to be what version of 
> Dragon is appropriate. The Windows product has three different versions, the 
> version for the Mac only has one version is Fars I know. That is the $200 
> version, it would be comparable comparable, to the NaturallySpeaking version 
> in Windows. I think the last tip that I will leave you all with is it is 
> important to speak slowly enough that you can read your braille display 
> should you have one. Because I think that it is important to see what you're 
> writing in a written form. That way you catch the occasional mistake. I guess 
> I want to stress that dictation products whatever it is is only roughly 85%. 
> If you have any more questions I will answer them, both to the best of my 
> ability and when I have time to. Sincerely Maurice mines. note I am using 
> Dragon 3.0 for the Mac. So hopefully you get a good idea of how good, or bad, 
> the dictation is? Note number two. I'm using this on a MacBook Pro 15 inch 
> with a 2.3 GHz processor that has four cores on it and four gig of RAM. No it 
> does not have one of the retina displays. I've like to thank you all that 
> advance, for reading this?
> On Dec 26, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Maurice,
>> 
>> Okay, a few questions for you.  Do you use VoiceOver with Dragon Dictate?  
>> How do you review your documents?  In other words, when you dictate a 
>> phrase, is it automatically read back or do you use other Dragon commands to 
>> review what you've dictated?  Does the program include a decent manual from 
>> within the help facility to identify all of the commands one can use?  
>> Thanks for the assist.
>> 
>> Les
>> On Dec 26, 2012, at 1:15 PM, Maurice Mines <maurice.mi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello, I have a couple of things to add to this discussion. I use Dragon 
>>> dictate 3.0 for the Mac because of an additional disability that prevents 
>>> me from writing normally. Things one should keep in mind, is that Siri is 
>>> intended for such task as very short messages, text messages, and very 
>>> simple writing tasks. However Dragon is intended for someone who is 
>>> involved in business, and were writing for professional purposes and also 
>>> if one's disability precludes writing in the traditional physical sense. 
>>> What I'm trying to get at here to explain to you is this. If you have a 
>>> situation where writing is extreme problem for you either physically or 
>>> through some other issue. Then use these two applications in this manner 
>>> would be my very strong suggestion. Use theory for one or two sentence 
>>> paths. But if you have a full business letter, term paper, or other 
>>> business related correspondence that requires it to be spelled right, and 
>>> written right the first time. Then using Dragon is certainly an extremely 
>>> viable option. Just my two cents worth, Maurice Mines.
>>> On Dec 26, 2012, at 6:35 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I just purchased Dragon for the Mac and am wondering if anyone has used 
>>>> this software and how it works with VO.  I've had experience with Dragon 
>>>> Naturally Speaking for the PC with Jaws and the extensive scripts.  
>>>> Specifically, I am wondering if VO will automatically read back text after 
>>>> it has been dictated?  Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Les
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