OK fine. I wasn't gonna write more on this thread, but you all've now gone one 
step too far.  You all think it's fair to charge for computer things, I wasn't 
gonna say anything more, but fine, you want my help on list any more? Pay me 
and I'll offer my input.  How's that, since all of you want me to pay for 
services.  Lookat!  It's not about the quanity nor is it about the 18 cents. 
It's about my opinion, just as you all're entitled to your opinions for this 
discussion, does that not therefore give me the right of a different opinion?  
I'm sick and tired of every time someone else on this list disagrees with 
another member, it's overlooked.  Yet, when I make even one little thing that 
people disagree with, you chop off my cahoanis!  So... if I get banned from the 
list because of my decision to only go one way at this point, that's really not 
my problem. It's the moderators' loss.  I will say that however, I'm done with 
offerring help.  Maybe down the road I will, but at this time, you want help? 
since you think help is so valueable and that blind people should pay for 
things sighted folks don't have to, then perhaps you'll appreciate that I 
refuse to help anyone else on or off list without being paid.

Happy now?  Deal with it!  For those who did appreciate my help, I apologize, 
but blame it on the jerks who are not greatful for the help and knowledge one 
can obtain.

For another thing:  Windows has nothing to do with Apple, so trying to compare, 
as you did isn't in my view a fair justification for your words, but since you 
insist on going there.  Yes, Brandon and others, You're damn straight! I do! 
feel o c r should be free.

Should screen readers be free? Yes! Why do you think I hardly ever use JFW 
anymore.  God forbid, I'd rather use Orca, NVDA, or something open source.  
Apple has put an immense! shit load of accessibility into their products, but 
do they charge us extra but not charge sighted people equally to opporate their 
products?  I didn't? think so!  OK, point made.

My rates are normally $15 an hour, which considerring most would charge upward 
of 30 or higher, that's pretty darn cheap.  So, if you want my help any 
further, let me know and we'll arrange a payment.  Otherwise thanks to you 
all's bashing of me for the past few months straight, I'm not saying anything 
more.  You all figure it out yourselves!  I wash my hands of helping you all!  
Maybe I have a bad attitude, but dont' bash me, and you wont' have to then see 
it!  It's one thing to disagree, but it's entirely another to disagree and be 
completely rude about it, as a ton of you are being.

Thank you kindly,

Christopher-Mark Gilland.
Founder of CLG Productions
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Christine Olivares 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2012 11:55 AM
  Subject: Re: captcha solving service for the mac.


  Hey,
  I would totally understand what you are saying if the Captcha costed 
something like $5 per image, but give me a break? It's only 18 cents. If you 
have a successful business for blind people, you wouldn't have one with the 
attitude you have. If you didn't charge anything, your business would go up in 
smoke. HOw do you think Freedom Scientific does their development? If they did 
everything for free, then there wouldn't be much for those that don't use a 
Mac. I was a JAWS user until I got the Mac, and I would have been lost without 
it.


  Just because you are blind doesn't mean you should have everything given to 
you for free. just call Humanware and talk to them. they would tell you the 
same thing. Services like this charge hundreds for Braille note takers, and you 
are complaining about 18 cents?


  Those free Captcha services don't have a future as much because they are 
free. I would appreciate that there is something that is inexpensive and will b 
around for a while.


  Being visually impaired, I think some things should be free, but i also think 
some things should charge too. This is one of these things.


  Thanks,
  Christine

  On Nov 30, 2012, at 11:08 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:


    I don't mean to be rude, but why should we pay 18 cents per captcha just as 
a result of being blind?  Sighted people all day long can do these things 
without having to pay.

    Isn't this kind of unfair to exclude blind people as doing it for free when 
there are services like Web Visum etc. that will do it for free?  Granted, they 
mainly only now work on Windows, for what it's worth, but the bottom line is, 
as long as you can access them, they're free.

    Thank you kindly,

    Christopher-Mark Gilland.
    Founder of CLG Productions
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Brandon Olivares
      To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
      Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 8:43 PM
      Subject: Re: captcha solving service for the mac.


      Hello,


      Not to advertise, but I run a captcha service that runs on any platform. 
It is called ZCaptcha, and you can find it here: http://www.azavia.com/zcaptcha


      It's all that I know of that works on the Mac. It is what I use myself.


      Regards,
      Brandon Olivares
      Azavia Technologies
      ZCaptcha — The Captcha Reader


      On Nov 30, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Jessica Moss <junglebookfa...@gmail.com> 
wrote:


        Does anyone know if there's a captcha solving service for the mac yet?  
I've done google searches for them and can't seem to find much, but found some 
tool of sort called Rumola, that I can't get up and running, so I'm really glad 
I didn't pay them after my free credits they give you run out.
         It's supposed to auto-fill them, but it never did what it was supposed 
to, so have no idea what to make of that, so if anyone knows of anything else, 
I'd appreciate your feedback, sense I really don't want to have to go back to 
my pc just to do this, and nothing else.

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