Dear Esther and Others, Just to clarify Esther's suggestions, the problem I hav encountered does not seem to be language related. In fact, the text I was trying to send to TextEdit was in English. The first suggestion of using windows chooser menu to determine whether in fact there is a save dialog window open which Voiceover cannot see, I have actually tested. And the curious thing is that TextEdit reports not having any windows at all. Voiceover says 0 windows when I activate windows chooser menu.
Do you feel, Esther, that I should report it to accessibility at Apple? With best wishes Andrew On 17 Nov 2012, at 16:26, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: > Today's Topic Summary > Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics > > 1Password [1 Update] > how to navigate around the skype 6 contacts list? [4 Updates] > Barnes and Noble E-reads and nook: How Accessible are They? [4 Updates] > Has anyone noticed a total lack of response from Spotlight since the last > update? [1 Update] > WiTopia will only say, WiTopia has no windows [2 Updates] > VoiceOver: Using VoiceOver on a Mac without a display attached may cause > applications to be slow or unresponsive [7 Updates] > Mail Busy ... [1 Update] > cool app: capture sound on your Mac as easily as a screenshot [3 Updates] > delete characters right to the cursor with one key [1 Update] > TextEdit becomes unusable after sending selected text to it. [1 Update] > 1Password > ROD SKENE <skene...@gmail.com> Nov 17 09:45AM -0600 > > Hi everyone, > I have a trial version of 1Password and want to purchase the app from the App > store. I have entered quite a bit of information into the trial version. What > is the best way to upgrade to a full license > ? I do sink with Dropbox with the 1Password iOS app on my iPhone. > I'm not sure if I should delete the app from my Mac before purchasing from > the App store or will the app be upgraded to a full license if I leave the > trial version of 1Password on my Mac without deleting. > Thanks for suggestions. > Rod > > how to navigate around the skype 6 contacts list? > "Estelita" <est...@sky.com> Nov 17 02:26PM > > Hello, > I have Skype 6 installed in my macbook pro, any instruction please on how to > find out who is online in my contact list? > What commands to call, or to send them message? > Thank you, your help is very much appreciated. > > Nene > > Rachel Feinberg <walksi...@gmail.com> Nov 17 07:01AM -0800 > > Hello, > > On the left sidebar, there's options like skype home, recent and contacts. If > you interact with the table, go to contacts, then stop interacting. Vo+right > Arrow, until you get to the contacts list table. Interact with that, and you > can then vo+up or down arrow to go through the list of contacts. You'll pass > some related tabs on your way over to the table, that tell you which contacts > you'll see. You can choose "all, skype, or online." > When you find the contact you want to call, press vo+shift+m on their name, > and call is the first option if you vo+down arrow. Vo+space on that or > instant message, and you're good to go. > Rachel > > "Estelita" <est...@sky.com> Nov 17 03:31PM > > Hi Rachel, > Thanks a lot for this very thorough instruction. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Rachel Feinberg > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 3:01 PM > Subject: Re: how to navigate around the skype 6 contacts list? > > > Hello, > > > On the left sidebar, there's options like skype home, recent and contacts. If > you interact with the table, go to contacts, then stop interacting. Vo+right > Arrow, until you get to the contacts list table. Interact with that, and you > can then vo+up or down arrow to go through the list of contacts. You'll pass > some related tabs on your way over to the table, that tell you which contacts > you'll see. You can choose "all, skype, or online." > When you find the contact you want to call, press vo+shift+m on their name, > and call is the first option if you vo+down arrow. Vo+space on that or > instant message, and you're good to go. > Rachel > > On Nov 17, 2012, at 6:26 AM, "Estelita" <est...@sky.com> wrote: > > > Hello, > I have Skype 6 installed in my macbook pro, any instruction please on how to > find out who is online in my contact list? > What commands to call, or to send them message? > Thank you, your help is very much appreciated. > > Nene > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > Harry Hogue <harryhog...@gmail.com> Nov 17 09:46AM -0600 > > Good morning, > > You can always press VO-cmd-T to jump forward between tables, and > VO-cmd-shift-T to jump backwords between tables, which make it a little > quicker. > > Hope this helps, > > Harry > > > Barnes and Noble E-reads and nook: How Accessible are They? > Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Nov 16 11:20PM +0100 > > Hello Teresa, > > If Nook works anything like Kobo, you need to go to your library on the Nook > website and click on the Adobe link. It downloads a URL link to your > computer, and when you do Cmd-o to open it, it downloads the book into your > Digital Editions folder which it creates. > > Cheers, > > Anne > > > > Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> Nov 16 03:35PM -0800 > > Thanks for the help, Anne. I've succeeded downloading B&N books. It works a > bit differently from the way you described with Kobo, but I did it. > > I don't know if authorizing my computer helped, and I've only downloaded a > public-domain book, so we will see how well I have things set up here. > > Thanks again, > Teresa > > > "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. > Feynman > > > Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> Nov 16 07:12PM -0800 > > Well, I'm going to share my adventures in case anyone else tries to reinvent > the wheel. Adobe Editions is very much more accessible than the Nook app for > Mac OS X. The Nook app has accessible controls, but the content is not > readable. This goes for the web interface as well. > > I downloaded a purchased book from the Nook website. I was presented with a > dialog on opening the book in Editions that informed me it needed an unlock > code. I had never encountered this unlock code before. after a bit of > frustrating googling, I came across something deep in a forum that pointed > out that the user name is the billing name for Nook, and the unlock code is > the credit card number. The example of the user name in the dialog has an > email address, and this threw me for a loop. However, I entered my full name > in the user name field and the credit card associated with Nook in the unlock > code field, and voila! One opened, beautifully accessible book. > > So the upshot is, yes, Nook books are accessible, once you get Nook working > with Adobe Digital editions. > > HtH, > Teresa > > > "Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough."--Richard P. > Feynman > > > Annie Skov Nielsen <annieskovniel...@gmail.com> Nov 17 04:22PM +0100 > > Hi Teresa. > > Thank you for the information. > > I found this site: > http://www.epubsoft.com > I bought their ebookconverter, and it is accessible for the most part. I have > contacted the developer, and they will make the program fully accessible, and > if we have any suggestions they will listen. > > Best regards Annie. > > Has anyone noticed a total lack of response from Spotlight since the last > update? > "Jürgen Fleger" <apple-engl...@fleger.net> Nov 17 04:19PM +0100 > > Since 10.8.2 it even works with VO + arrow keys correctly. > Just to mention it: There's no need to press tab. Just press arrow down or VO > + arrow down. > > All the best > Jürgen > > WiTopia will only say, WiTopia has no windows > "johns.kary" <johns.k...@gmail.com> Nov 17 10:18AM +1000 > > Ok, first, thanks to everyone who answered my first question about VPN's. > Now, can anyone tell me why the only thing I can get WiTopia to do or say is > "WiTopia has no windows? > What am I missing guys? It's getting incredibly frustrating. > Thanks again for any help, > Kari. > > Richard Ring <richr...@gmail.com> Nov 17 09:15AM -0600 > > I hate to plead total ignorance, but if you don't ask, you won't know. So, > what is Witopia? > > Sent from my Mac Book Pro > richr...@gmail.com > > > VoiceOver: Using VoiceOver on a Mac without a display attached may cause > applications to be slow or unresponsive > Vic <vtsa...@gmail.com> Nov 16 04:27PM -0800 > > Thanks Esther. > I wonder if John is listening on this discussion. > I wonder if HDMI adapter will work the same way and whether the NTSC > converter takes much space on one's table. > > Thanks a lot for the help. > Vic > > > Vic wrote: > > Vic <vtsa...@gmail.com> Nov 16 04:29PM -0800 > > O, and another thing... > I wonder if the NTSC converter in question restricts the Mac to some > screen resolution beyond which it cannot go. I want to make sure I do > not run in trouble with applications that rely on higher resolution > parameters. > > Thanks, > Vic > > Esther wrote: > > John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> Nov 16 08:10PM -0500 > > Unfortunately, the adapter alone doesn't work. I tried that and even a VGA > adapter. I had to use the converter box. The box is very small. It's probably > the size of a deck of playing cards, maybe a few inches longer. It's tucked > under the self on my desk well out of the way. > > > Take Care > > John D. Panarese > Director > Mac for the Blind > Tel, (631) 724-4479 > Email, j...@macfortheblind.com > Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com > Twitter, @macfortheblind > > APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION > > AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE > > MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT > > > > > > Vic <vtsa...@gmail.com> Nov 16 05:54PM -0800 > > Kawal, > So, does your friend have iMac, Mac mini or Mac mini server? We are talking > about second case specifically. > > Vic <vtsa...@gmail.com> Nov 16 05:58PM -0800 > > That's a bummer because I never had these problems with my windows 7 machine. > > Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> Nov 17 05:55AM > > He has a Mac Mini and an I Mac. He does not use the server Mac Mini as far as > I know but is using the latest Mac Mini. He says he has no problem with it as > it's not attached to a screen. > > Kawal. > > > Kliphton <kliph...@gmail.com> Nov 17 08:36AM -0600 > > what configurations did you make, how much ram and processor speed do you > have? > > > Kliphton-SR > (iMessage&Email) kliph...@icloud.com > (Skype) kliphton72 > http::twitter.com/KaptonKliphton > http::kliphton.wordpress.com > http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie > > On Nov 16, 2012, at 12:50 PM, Vic <vtsa...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I am asking because I just purchased a Mac Mini with the best configuration I > could put together and experience significant responsiveness when typing or > browsing with the magic trackpad. > I plugged in a HDMI adapter but that didn't change anything. > So, I thought I'd ask here. > > Thanks, > Vic > > > On Friday, November 16, 2012 5:48:14 AM UTC-8, Ricardo Walker wrote: > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/a0Gkf51RPyMJ. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > Mail Busy ... > Mike Dailey <mpd...@gmail.com> Nov 17 06:35AM -0800 > > I recently upgraded to OS X 10.8.2. Now when I go into Mail, I get Mail > Busy, Mail Ready, Mail Busy ... > > Does anyone have any ideas, or should I report a bug to Apple? > > Thanks, > > Mike > > cool app: capture sound on your Mac as easily as a screenshot > Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> Nov 16 05:44PM -0500 > > Hi all, > I just read about this app that lets you press a shortcut to start recording > whatever your mac is playing. Press the shortcut again and the recording > stops, then a wav file of the recorded audio is placed on your desktop. I > haven't tried the app yet, but here's the link if you want to give it a try. > https://github.com/pje/wavtap > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > John Sanfilippo <vze33...@verizon.net> Nov 17 01:32AM -0500 > > Sounds great but, > > 1, it is alpha software, which they plainly state. > > 2, How do you work it? Once installed and run, what's the hot key? > > Just My experience so far. > > > JohnS > > > On Nov 16, 2012, at 5:44 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > I just read about this app that lets you press a shortcut to start recording > whatever your mac is playing. Press the shortcut again and the recording > stops, then a wav file of the recorded audio is placed on your desktop. I > haven't tried the app yet, but here's the link if you want to give it a try. > https://github.com/pje/wavtap > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> Nov 17 09:32AM -0500 > > Again, I have not yet run it myself, but the hotkey is supposed to be > ctrl-cmd-space to both start and stop it. Yes, it is alpha software, and I > should have said that in my original post, sorry. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com > > delete characters right to the cursor with one key > Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> Nov 16 11:51PM -0600 > > Hi William. > I finally figured out the answer to the question you asked. It took me a > while because I couldn't remember what it was under. > > You can change the way VoiceOver handles this. If you go to Verbosity in the > VoiceOver Utility with Control option f8, you then choose text with the VO > space. Press tab until you hear Speak text the cursor passes. Press down > arrow until you hear Speak text to the right of the cursor. This should > result in the delete command being spoken the way it is in Windows just like > you are used to, and you can use only the delete key to perform the delete > command. > > Regards, > Gigi > > > TextEdit becomes unusable after sending selected text to it. > Esther <mori...@mac.com> Nov 16 01:01PM -1000 > > Hi Maria, Cheryl, Max, and Others, > > Using the Services Menu option for "New TextEdit window containing selection" > actually gives you some extra accessibility features that using copy, > command-tab to TextEdit, and pasting does not, because it strips out controls > that are not text-related when it sends the content to TextEdit. So if you > are viewing a document with embedded tables or lists, select all with > Command-A, then use the services menu option for sending to TextEdit via a > shortcut, VoiceOver will automatically read the entire table content or list > that was invisible to you because it was embedded one layer down, and you can > navigate through with full control in the TextEdit window. Another example > where this sometimes works is when you have a badly coded web page that > doesn't render correctly with a screen reader because the author hasn't put > the HTML commands in the correct order around each element. Nearly two years > ago someone posted an example of a web page they needed to read and asked for > solutions. With the "New TextEdit window containing selection" services menu > option, that page became readable to VoiceOver. Using Safari Reader > (Command-Shift-R), most of the page became readable, but not the comments > sections at the end that were readable with the first method but unreadable > with the second. I think that was probably the first time this option caught > the attention of macvisionaries list users, although there are postings about > it going back to Tiger dating from before the list moved to Google Groups. > > I use TextEdit a lot, usually in plain text mode, because VO correctly reads > characters from non-Latin alphabets (like Cyrillic characters for Russian) > and special symbols such as those for math characters. > > I'm not sure how to trouble-shoot Andrew's problem, since I'm not running the > latest version of the OS and don't see this issue with TextEdit myself, but > this might be due to a focus issue. At one time in an earlier version of Mac > OS X, the TextEdit window that received the contents of the service menu > option didn't also receive focus, but had to be accessed via window chooser > menu or by doing command-tabs back to TextEdit. Are there many other TextEdit > windows open at the same time? The other possibility is that this is tied to > different language selections for the different TextEdit windows. I know that > both Andrew and Harry use more than one language. TextEdit is supposed to be > able to support different languages in different windows, so you can compose > a document in one language while reading in another in a different language. > Mountain Lion has been adding a lot of new language features and new > dictionaries for other languages according to the multilingual mac blog > pages. It's possible that there's extra time required to resolve the language > resources needed for a new TextEdit window in another language, if there is > more than one language in use at the same time. These are just a few > thoughts, since I haven't found this issue myself. > > HTH. 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