I totally agree.
Chris.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cheree Heppe" <che...@dogsc4me.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: iPad App Store losing sales, alienating
Cheree Heppe here:
This design in which a tiny area is to be flicked at to advance the app list
isn't a realistic access methodology. The structure of the App Store prior
to IOS 6 worked fine, as did the IBooks store. Since the change, My perusal
and purchase of both apps and IBooks has dropped off sharply. This isn't
because I don't prefer to look around and to purchase, it's because the
access has become so chancy and difficult.
Whoever is advising the Apple creative teams on blindness disability may
deserve a second hard look. This is because when Apple opened its
accessibility window for blind users, it completely derailed some entrenched
and very expensive blindness products and made the major Windows screen
readers look clumsy and badly designed.
You don't suppose those blindness bastions are going to take that lying
down? What if bad advice in the name of experienced accesibility could be
given to Apple to weaken or limit the scope and reach of Apple's new access?
What if the voices and speech could be skewed toward the silly season
variety, as in that fake Ease Indin accent that allows the perfectly good
Australian voice to mispronounce standard words. Some of us blind users
depend on the pronounciation to know how a word is spelled. Some
mispronounced words when spoken in that fake Ease Indian accent, sound
exactly like other real words.
So, with a few suggestions that get accepted, and with a few more that
well, really guys, the totally blind can't be expected to really handle
much, can they, the whole beautifully positive Apple access platform tilts
toward the glitchy, falty Windows variety.
It is a good idea to call and have a trouble ticket created. How did that
old patriotic saying go? Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom.
So, let's not give up our newly won freedom with these Apple devices and
interfaces.
By the way, I'm totally blind and totally able to use the Apple devices, as
long as the accessibility playing field isn't stacked against me.
Regards,
Cheree Heppe
Sent from my iPad Mini
On 07/11/2012, at 1:51, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" <clgillan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hey Cheree, I don't know how to do this with the IPad,but with the IPhone
at least, I definitely! can show you. It's a little weird, but it is
extremely doable. I do it all the time!
OK, so, on your 4S, at least, what you need to do, is after you bring the
page up for your first result, tap near the very bottom center of the
screen, if it helps, I don't know how much, if any, vision that you have,
but if you have enough to see the little thumbnail picture of the artwork
for the app, what you need is immediately just directly below that. it's
basically gonna be right between that artwork, and your home key. If you
can't see it, it is a flickable item, so don't worry. If push comes to
shove, you definitely! can flick to it. You will see that there is an
adjuster. It'll say something like 1 of 45, or 1 of 200, or whatever.
Now, what you want to do is on that adjuster, just like you would do
normally, just one finger flick up to get to the next result, and one
finger flick down to get to the previous one. Be sure you're focused on
that adjuster though before you virtically flick. Otherwise, you're gonna
be moving the currently set rotor setting like words, headings,
characters, etc.
Again, no dice for the IPad. I will say that Chris from Apple did call me
back yesterday, around 6, rigbht before he left for the day, and he told
me that he, his boss, and about 5 or 6 others had a staff meeting which he
himself requested, to discuss the stores IPad accessibility moving
forward, as he too agreed since I O S 6.anything came out, it's somewhat
climbed down hill in Voiceover support. In this meeting, he told me one
of the key outline discussions did revolve around my exact problem. He
definitely did send it up to engineering. I'd encourage all of you guys
to also write, and have them create you a case number like Chris did for
me, this way it's not just an oh, we'll send it up. You need to insist
that they give you a case number. I think the more people who do this,
the better. They are? now definitely, if nothing else, at least from me,
aware the issue's there, but they're not gonna do anything with just one
person. I promise you they won't. I didn't say one person can't make a
difference, so don't read me out of context. I simply said, one person
might make a difference, yes, but only if others also report the
bug/breakage. Let's not bombard them, but, let's really pull together and
let's all let them know. Regardless if they care or not really at this
point is not an issue. Let's let them know, then if they choose to not
act on it, then, we'll bitch, but until then, let's see what they say.
Thank you kindly,
Christopher-Mark Gilland.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheree Heppe" <che...@dogsc4me.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: iPad app store
Cheree Heppe here:
Same with me on an iphone 4s, ipadd 2 and ipad mini.
Totally unusable.
Sent from my IPhone 4S
On 06/11/2012, at 15:14, Lisette Wesseling <lisettewessel...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I'm only going to weigh into this discussion by saying that I too am
having the problems Chris described. I'm running an iPad 2 gen with 6.01.
I can only get to one of the search results after pressing search. The
pop up above the search field does populate, but double tapping on
anything produces the message that there are no results. Interesting some
people are not having this problem. I'm going to write to Apple about it
and hopefully it will be fixed soon.
Cheers all
Lisette
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