I think you'll like win7 alot compared to XP - I know I do.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Cheryl Homiak 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 3:52 PM
  Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2

  I'm not so nonchalant and forgiving about it. I can do the Apple part without 
sighted assistance; I can install on my Mac and install on linux on my own. But 
i can't install Windows by myself?! I do plan to bootcamp Windows 7 eventually 
but right now  I am in the process of installing it in vmware fusion, soley 
because Windows is the one system I use that doesn't allow me to install it on 
my own. i would prefer my choices to be really my choices, not ones forced on 
me by the inaccessibility of a system! But I am thankful that at least vmware 
does allow me to install Windows independently! At least it allowed me to 
install xp independently and I'm about to find out about Windows 7. And despite 
my unhappiness with the inaccessibility of the install, I really am looking 
forward to learning Windows 7 now that I've decided to finally leave xp behind!






  -- 
  Cheryl


  May the words of my mouth
  and the meditation of my heart
  be acceptable to You, Lord,
  my rock and my Redeemer.
  (Psalm 19:14 HCSB)





  On Oct 6, 2012, at 12:48 PM, "Phil Halton" <philh...@gmail.com> wrote:


    Ray, Yes, I had sighted assistance.

    I found a fairly tech competent person who had a few hours to kill and it 
took us 2 hours from start to finish.

    That's from the time I started bootcamp assistant, through the actual 
windows7 install, the install of apple support drivers, and finally installing 
jaws12. There's just no way around the need for sighted assistance in my 
opinion, but hey, sighted people aren't so bad ;-)


    ----- Original Message -----
      From: Ray Foret Jr
      To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
      Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 10:47 AM
      Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2


      Did you have sighted assistance while going through the boot camp thingie 
yesterday?  My guess is that you got to a point in the windows installation 
where it came time to do the actual install of windows and you needed sighted 
help because no windows audio drivers were loaded yet.  Is that pretty much 
right?


      I ain't done it myself, but, many have.  I believe it to be completely 
possible because of the way it works.  Voice Over won't guide you through the 
process;  but, still, it can be done.  My advice, however, is not to listen to 
me but to others who have actually done it.  

      Sincerely,
      The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!


      Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!


      Skype name:
      barefootedray


      On Oct 6, 2012, at 9:32 AM, "Phil Halton" <philh...@gmail.com> wrote:


        Harry, I'm pretty sure you'll have to actually "install" windows during 
the bootcamp process. Having it as a VMWare machine      won't work for you 
there. I went through the whole bootcamp thing yesterday and it worked great. 
Now, I'm thinking of going the VMWare route. Can you tell me if it is easy to 
install windows via VMWare without sighted assistance?
        Is VO up and talking through the process?


        ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Hogue" <harryhog...@gmail.com>
        To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
        Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 1:31 AM
        Subject: Re: Boot Camp and 10.8.2


        Hi, that's good to know that it doesn't cost money.  I don't regret 
using VMware Fusion, since times call for having both operating systems running 
at the same time, but it's nice to know that this alternative option is also 
available.  if I have Windows already installed via a virtual machine, would I 
have to reinstall it, do you know?

        Thanks.

        Harry

        On oct 5, 2012, at 8:05 p.m., Mauricio Almeida 
<mauriciopmalme...@gmail.com> wrote:


          hi harry,

          booth camp does not cost money, except for what you pay for a legal 
copy of windows.
          I found it to be definitely worth it.
          Though i try to do it all on the mac, obviously, it is still good to 
have windows. it can come in handy.

          mauricio
          On Oct 4, 2012, at 10:44 PM, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote:


            Harry,

            I'm installing windows7 via bootcamp tommorrow morning. It looks 
quite straightforward, but sighted assistance is required for the windows 
install portion of the process as there is no screen reader support at that 
point.

            You can read the installation and setup pdf for bootcamp to get 
familiar with the steps involved. And, for the windows7 install, I found a 
detailed, step-by-step guide for installing windows7 on Black Viper's website

            www.blackviper.com

            search his site for windows 7 install.

            I'll no doubt be crowing about my new windows7 machine, or asking 
frantically for help and advice, depending whether it goes well or badly 
tomorrow.

            P.S. if you want a microsoft word document of the bootcamp setup 
and installation guide I can send it to you via email - contact me offlist for 
that doc.

            ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Hogue" 
<harryhog...@gmail.com>
            To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
            Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 8:10 PM
            Subject: Boot Camp and 10.8.2


            Hi all,

            I was wondering how hard it is to install Boot Camp, if it costs 
money, and if it is worth it if i already ache VMware Fusion.  Waht are the 
advantages/disadvantages?  would it make the Windows side of my computer 
faster/more efficient to be running without the Mac portion running at the same 
time, for example?  I know others ahve provided instructions, so I could search 
for those threads, if instructions were provided about the best way to search 
the mail archives, as I don't know.

            Also, my other question has to do with 10.8.2.  I wondered, since I 
know some of you ahve had issues with Voiceover in 10.8.2, owudl yo urecommend 
I upgrade from 10.8.1?  I am really wanting to improve my Spanish skills, but 
my Voiceover defaults to English each time I restart to English even though my 
system in in Spanish.  I would install 10.8.2 in Spanish to avoid this, but 
don't want to make VoiceOver unreliable if 10.8.2 is still pretty buggy.

            Thanks for any help, and I hope this is all clear, being unrelated 
as both portiosn of the post are.

            Regards,

            harry

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