Cheree Heppe here: Not greed in the mix, eh? As to that walk-a-mile-in-my-moccasins bit, does it take rocket science to figure that the deaf-blind are not going to buy this app independently? It's so old school trickle down rehab economics and is very sad.
Sent from my IPhone 4S On 08/09/2012, at 19:31, Lisette Wesseling <lisettewessel...@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes but we're not deafblind so we wouldn't see the point in paying for it. > It is a significant reduction to their stand alone device. > If this app encourages more deafblind people to get iPhones, and use texting > etc, and discover how easy email is, it may encourage more use of braille and > greater literacy among deafblind people. > No, I don't work for Humanware, and would use the notes app myself if I were > communicating with a deafblind person, but I think it's not aimed at us. > Slagging off another company without really knowing about the issues is not > helpful. > On 9/09/2012, at 2:25 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Let me ask this then: how is this so different from using the notes >> app? Also, the cost per year for being an apple developer is $100. Do >> they really plan on selling so few that they have to charge as much as >> they pay apple for a year for just one app purchase? Yes, I realize >> they get only 66% of the cost, but still... $100 for a text entry app? >> I really don't see it. >> >> On 9/8/12, David Tanner <david.tanner...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> No, you guys don't understand what is going on with this app. It is >>> primarily an app that most blind folks wouldn't want. It is so that a >>> deaf-blind can do face-to-face communications with another person. Yes, it >>> >>> looks pretty simple, but when you look at development costs and realize that >>> >>> you aren't going to sell a whole lot of apps when you are only really >>> selling to a limited size deaf-blind community then the cost is going to be >>> >>> higher than for an app that blind and sighted people would want to >>> purchase. >>> >>> Again, it is a great app for those who need it, and actually drops the price >>> >>> for communications for a deaf-blind person by thousands of dollars from the >>> >>> $8,000 price of the deaf-Blind Communicator that Humanware has been selling >>> >>> since 2009. So, even if you add the cost of the app, a $2,500 or so >>> bluetooth Braille display and an iPhone it cuts the price in half or more. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Alex Hall" <mehg...@gmail.com> >>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 2:44 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Maccessibility] The Humanware Communicator for iOS >>> >>> >>> Well, this is humanware after all. For those not in the know, let me >>> tell you about their latest major keysoft update (which takes one sma >>> count). It costs $200 for an sma, giving you two upgrades, or $135 for >>> a single upgrade if you do not have an sma. Keeping that in mind, >>> here's the long list of features they included in the last paid >>> update: >>> * a translator that can convert the text in pdf files to .txt files. >>> * bug fixes, including a fix for the braille terminal mode on qt units >>> (to fix something they broke in the previous update) >>> * a way for the bn to automatically use an active internet connection >>> without prompting the user to pick one each time (this rarely works as >>> advertised) >>> >>> ...and that's it. One feature, one interface change that doesn't work >>> right, and a fix for a previous mistake, all for the low price of >>> $135. Does this explain more about how they can charge $100 for a >>> simple app? >>> >>> On 9/8/12, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote: >>>> Perhaps the company are strapped for cash hence the new app so they think >>>> people like us are made of money and if we are all stupid we'll buy not >>>> any >>>> one is stupid of course. >>>> On 8 Sep 2012, at 20:09, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Um, well, put simply... nothing. True, hooking a display up to an iOS >>>>> device hides the onscreen keyboard, but in iOS6 I hear they will offer >>>>> a way to show it. Also, you get a buffer of past messages. Basically, >>>>> a program any decent coder could put together in, say a few days? >>>>> Someone correct me if I'm wrong, though I really don't know if we'll >>>>> find anyone willing to throw away... rather, spend $100 on an app that >>>>> consists of a text fiel, list of messages, and keyboard. >>>>> >>>>> On 9/8/12, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> This really is an honest question, but what does this app have that the >>>>>> IOs >>>>>> devices don't have natively. What would I be paying $100 to do? >>>>>> >>>>>> Teresa >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 8, 2012, at 9:53 AM, Maccessibility <nore...@maccessibility.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Maccessibility has posted a new item, 'The Humanware Communicator for >>>>>>> iOS' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Humanware has released The Humanware Communicator app for iOS, priced >>>>>>> at >>>>>>> a >>>>>>> staggering $99.99 US. From the description: >>>>>>> The HumanWare Communicator application is intended to establish a text >>>>>>> conversation between a deaf-blind person and a sighted person. All >>>>>>> interaction appears both on the deaf-blind person’s refreshable >>>>>>> Braille >>>>>>> display, as well as visually on the [...] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You may view the latest post at >>>>>>> http://maccessibility.net/2012/09/08/the-humanware-communicator-for-ios/ >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Have a great day, >>>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>>> mehg...@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>> mehg...@gmail.com >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >> mehg...@gmail.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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