Well, either Mail or Yorufukurou; So far lately, like the past couple days, I 
shut down the Yoru… client but left Mail up.  No crashes yet.  But I bet either 
of these clients could cause the problem.

On Sep 2, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Chris Bruinenberg <cbrui...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Steve. I as well have been having this problem. 
> I wonder if it could be mail in the background. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Sep 2, 2012, at 5:09 PM, Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I did an upgrade up from Lion to Mountain Lion.  Since then, I have updated 
>> to 10.8.1 when it came out.  I haven't had it happen since my posts but I 
>> have been shutting down Yorufukurou before letting the machine sleep.  I 
>> think also when waking things up, Mail might be hanging while doing updates 
>> from my IMAP accounts.  But I will try the rapid vo-F5 thing if it should 
>> happen again.
>> 
>> Minor bugs are one thing but I always *HATE* losses of speech for obvious 
>> reasons.  This would be the case on any platform it happens on.
>> 
>> On Sep 1, 2012, at 3:02 AM, Keith Watson <tkwatso...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Just wondering if you upgraded from Lion or did a fresh install? I saw this 
>>> behavior on my mini during the beta cycle and never did get a resolution 
>>> out of Apple for it. I had it occur after the release and it seemed to get 
>>> better after 10.8.1 was released. The command f5 trick that Ricardo 
>>> suggested worked well for me too. Here's the thing though. I was having 
>>> some other issues that caused me to nuke and pave my system. Since then I 
>>> have not had any problem with this. I know it's a hassle but you might 
>>> consider a fresh install.
>>> 
>>> Keith
>>> 
>>> On Aug 31, 2012, at 2:24 PM, Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm not sure if it is a total crash of VO, loss of speech or some kind
>>>> of modal dialog that doesn't talk.  But I have had 3 or 4 incidents
>>>> where I come up to the Mac Mini and wake it from a sleep state.  I
>>>> hear sounds that mail updated with new messages and whatever but after
>>>> that, no speech.  Only thing I can do is power off and back on again.
>>>> the only background I can seem to see so far is upon rebooting, I
>>>> notice that yorufukurou is gone from the list of running apps.
>>>> Something makes me wonder if an error dialog popped up and VO was
>>>> unable to read it.
>>>> 
>>>> Has anyone else experienced anything like this?  I don't recall having
>>>> this happen under lion but then again, Yoru... was updated recently
>>>> too.  I recall hearing that some modal dialogs were not accessible to
>>>> VO in the past.
>>>> 
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>> 
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