Thanks Gigi, I will certainly keep trying - I think they price Macs to ensure that you can't abandon it after a few gos!
When using the screen visually I have "white on black" turned on, and use full screen magnification to zoom in a fair way. I have tried trawling the various settings, both in "Accessibility" and "Trackpad", but have so far drawn a blank. Thanks, Robert On Monday, August 27, 2012 10:42:49 AM UTC+1, Gigi wrote: > > Hi Robert > First of all, hang in there. It takes some time to switch. It took me > about two weeks, but then voiceover was my fifth screen reader. > I have a question about the screened in version? are you talking about > just changing the contrast? > I have never experienced the problems you're talking about. So, it sounds > to me like some weird setting you've got that is causing you trouble. > Regards > Gigi > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Aug 27, 2012, at 3:54 AM, Robert <robertsim...@gmail.com <javascript:>> > wrote: > > Dear All, > > I have a question regarding use of the mouse pointer with VoiceOver on OS > X - however, since I haven't posted here before I thought I'd better > introduce myself. > > I live in London (UK) and have become something of an Apple convert in > recent years - starting off with my beloved iPhone in 2010, and much more > recently buying myself a MacBook Air. One of the main drivers for the Mac > purchase was the changing nature of my sight - whilst I still have useful > vision, with which I can read a computer monitor, given sufficient > contract, reduced resolution, increased font size, etc, this is becoming > increasingly difficult. Having used VoiceOver on the iPhone virtually all > the time, buying a Mac seemed like the obvious way of making a gentle > transition from sight-reading to screenreading. > > I did a lot of research before biting the bullet, including playing with > an Air for a few hours in an Apple Store. Since getting it, however, I > have been slightly frustrated by the steepness of the learning curve, and > my relatively slow progress up it. I think part of the issue has been that > I am not only learning to use a new OS, having mainly used Windows (and > Ubuntu for a bit) until now, but I am also relying more heavily on the > screenreader than ever before. Whilst many of the gestures transfer across > to from iOS to Mountain Lion, the significantly more complicated desktop > and my lack of familiarity with the various keyboard shortcuts is proving > to be somewhat frustrating. > > I'll no doubt bother you with some of my other issues another time, but I > would appreciate a bit of advice on the thing which is probably causing me > the most irritation. > > As I am still finding my way around the desktop and various applications, > I often find myself getting rather "lost". One way of getting out of such > situations, I find, is to disable the trackpad commander, zoom in a fair > bit, and navigate with the mouse pointer, with VoiceOver announcing the > items under it. This works pretty well within most applications, however > in some - notably Mail - it automatically selects items as soon as the > cursor hovers over them. For instance, if I move the cursor over the > mailbox list and select "Inbox", but inadvertently hover over "drafts" when > moving the cursor back to the message list, "Drafts" is activated instead > of "Inbox". > > This becomes even more annoying if I accidentally stray beyond the > boundary of a window, resulting in the next one back being activated > instead. As an example, I might have Safari open with Mail still running > in the background. Whilst navigating with the mouse cursor I accidentally > stray beyond the Safari window, and suddenly find myself back in Mail! To > make matters even worse, if I Cmd + Tab back to Safari, but don't move the > mouse cursor beforehand, it flips back to Mail as soon as I touch the > touchpad. You will understand how annoying and frustrating this is. > > I would be very grateful if anybody could help me with this. Is there a > way of maintaining the VO focus whilst navigating the cursor, but without > actually activating the items under it? Is there any way of automatically > keeping the mouse cursor within the boundaries of a window? Any help or > advice would be very gratefully received. > > Many thanks, and sorry for the very long post! > > Robert > > (Running Max OS X 10.8.1, with VO, magnification and screen inversion > turned on.) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/macvisionaries/-/PB8g6V7NCbEJ. > To post to this group, send email to macvisi...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionarie...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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