Can you not copy the app to the applications folder or run the app directly from the disk image? Sent from my mac
On 26 Aug 2012, at 01:37, Chenelle Hancock <filmchenelle1...@gmail.com> wrote: > hi all, > i wanted to know if anyone had instructions on how to install louie onto > the mack using voice over commands? any help would be most greatly > appreicated. > sincerely, chenelle thanks for the help. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 25/08/2012, at 18:04, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: > >> Today's Topic Summary >> Group: http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries/topics >> >> • ITunes and Text EDit have disappeared from dock [4 Updates] >> • Update On My Problem [4 Updates] >> • 1password accessibility [1 Update] >> • Really frustrated with Mail! For real this time! [1 Update] >> • Zoom [1 Update] >> • Audio Hijack Pro [2 Updates] >> • VMware Fusion [1 Update] >> • iTunes Library Help [1 Update] >> • OS X rocks! [1 Update] >> • removing Carbon coppy Cloner [1 Update] >> • Interesting Problem [1 Update] >> • safari [1 Update] >> • Restore Factory Default [1 Update] >> • Best GPS app for iPhone [2 Updates] >> • Facebook on IOS update [1 Update] >> • Fleksy [1 Update] >> • ML .1, first look. [1 Update] >> ITunes and Text EDit have disappeared from dock >> Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> Aug 25 04:42PM -0400 >> >> Have no idea why, but can't get to them unless I use finder or Sptlight. How >> can I get them back in there? >> Thanks. >> Christine >> >> Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Aug 25 04:49PM -0400 >> >> Hi, >> >> find the apps in your applications folder in the finder and press command >> shift T to add them back to the dock. >> >> hth >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rica...@appletothecore.info >> Twitter:@apple2thecore >> www.appletothecore.info >> >> >> Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> Aug 25 04:52PM -0400 >> >> Great. Thanks much. >> >> Steve Holmes <steve.holme...@gmail.com> Aug 25 03:03PM -0700 >> >> Just curious, how do you guys find some of these other shortcuts? When I >> went into the menus while on the apps folder, I did not see even a menu item >> for putting the file on the doc. I saw one for putting it on the sidebar >> (Command-T). When I looked around in the help menu for the finder, I didn't >> come across that either. This is a good one to remember though. >> >> >> Update On My Problem >> Scott Rumery <blindfait...@gmail.com> Aug 25 03:48PM -0400 >> >> Hello, >> >> I have been working on my issue with Audio Highjack Pro this afternoon, and >> I just wanted to give you all an update. I have discovered that my system >> sound recording comes out fine as long as I do not have my usb headphones >> plugged in. If my headphones are plugged in then my file will have no sound >> in it. I cannot for the life of me understand why, but if I make a system >> sound recording without my headphones plugged in then the end result is >> great, but if I make the recording while my headphones are plugged in then I >> get nothing but silence in the resulting file. >> >> Do any of you have any idea why this is the case? I would ultimately like to >> be able to record my system sounds and record my own voice for use in a >> podcast. I know that this is possible, because I know a few people who do >> this. Any help will be greatly appreciated. >> >> Scott >> >> Brandon Olivares <programmer2...@gmail.com> Aug 25 04:40PM -0400 >> >> What are you selecting as the input? Are there any effects you are adding to >> it? >> >> Scott Rumery <blindfait...@gmail.com> Aug 25 05:49PM -0400 >> >> No effects, and my input is set to my headphones. I don't know why I can't >> get it to work properly. When I first installed Audio Highjack Pro all was >> fine, it was only after trying to use Garage Band and QuickTime Player with >> it that this started to happen. I have since uninstalled Garage Band but the >> problem persists. Maybe the conflict is QuickTime Player, but for the life >> of me I can't figure out what the conflict could be. >> >> Scott >> >> Brandon Olivares <programmer2...@gmail.com> Aug 25 05:57PM -0400 >> >> Do your headphones have a microphone in them? >> >> Also, if you want to record system audio, then you want to set the input to >> the option called "System Audio", not your headphones. >> >> 1password accessibility >> Paul Erkens <paul.erk...@gmail.com> Aug 25 11:06PM +0200 >> >> Hi Robert, >> >> It worked out this time. Thank you for your clear answer and tip about the >> menus. I have been focusing so hard on the safari extension and its >> inaccessibility, that it really got me frustrated. Things are a lot clearer >> now, even though inaccessibility in the extension remains for one part. You >> have been very helpful Robert. >> >> For the sake of others attempting to use 1password, here is what I bumped >> into. As far as I found a work around, I'll describe that as well, so that >> others don't have to invent the wheel again, and at least get going, having >> logins saved, using them again, seeing how fast that is, and understanding >> some of the safari extension of 1password. >> >> After having installed 1password, the words from a podcast I heard still >> sounded in the back of my mind, saying: it's real easy technology, that >> 1password thing. If you read the user guide, then yes, it's really been >> thought through very well. 1Password consists of both an application that >> goes into the normal app folder on the mac, and the other part is what is >> called a safari extension. It is this extension that is so handy, because >> when you log in to a site that 1password never saw before, then it asks you >> if you want to save this login for later. If you say yes, the login is >> stored inside the 1password keychain, along with all necessary data. This >> works well, even with VoiceOver. The 1password app is also very accessible, >> so that's good news to begin with, but the other part is not that easy if >> you use VoiceOver at this moment. >> >> Say you are about to change one of your own passwords, for instance one that >> you have on skype.com, and you want to replace that with a strong password, >> given to you by the password generator inside 1password. Then if you try to >> follow the instructions in the user guide, you'll bump into problems on the >> safari extension 1password interface. >> >> Here's what it says. Quote: >> Click the 1Password key button in your toolbar, then the Strong Password >> Generator tab (it has a rotary padlock lock icon) >> >> Adjust any features of the new strong password you’re creating >> Click Fill to automatically fill your new password into any ‘new password’ >> and ‘verify password’ fields >> Click Save and the 1Password AutoSave Bar should ask if you want to save >> this Login >> Click the gear menu, mouse to the ‘Replace Existing Login’ section, and >> click the relevant Login you want to update with this new password >> Sleep better at night >> End of quote. >> >> First, you have to click the 1password item inside your safari toolbar. With >> VoiceOver, this is easy. Go over to the toolbar, interact, and move right >> till you find the 1password button. Then click that with VO space. So far so >> good. >> >> Next, according to the manual, you should click the rotary padlock lock >> icon, which will open the 1password strong password generator. >> Now, to find the new window from 1password, that popped up after you clicked >> the 1password button, inside the safari toolbar, you need to know that for >> now, you have not 1, but 2 html areas inside safari. The normal one, where >> you view your web pages, and another new one, from 1password. For VoiceOver, >> this is the left of the 2 html areas. >> >> Normally, we would interact, and then VO right till we find the strong >> password generator icon. For this to work, the icon must have been labeled >> with some explanatory text like "Strong Password Generator", so that when >> you find that icon with VoiceOver, it can speak what the icon does. Without >> the label, it can't. And in this case, many icons and other items inside the >> 1password html area are poorly labeled. >> >> Here's what the 1password html area in safari reads as of now. The first >> five items are: >> Tab, one of five. Then VO right and you hear: >> tab, two of five. VO right and you hear: >> tab, three of five. VO right: >> Tab, four of five. Vo right: >> tab, five of five. >> So these items are not descriptive at all for now. >> >> The next item in sequence for VoiceOver is something that appears as a >> button. VoiceOver says "button", but it won't tell what this very button >> does, like "okay button", "save button", etc. It's just "button". Sometimes, >> a tooltip is attached to a control like this, and if you have VoiceOver >> configured to do so, it can tell you what that help text says, after a short >> delay. If you turned that off in VoiceOver but you are curious what the help >> tag is, you can have it spoken by focusing the item you want to know about, >> in this case the unlabeled button, and then issuing the VoiceOver function >> VO shift h, that is control, option, shift h. If there is a help tag, like >> there is for many other buttons in other programs, you might hear something >> like: "End the current call", or "close this dialog". In this particular >> case however, the button does not have a help tag, so we're out of luck in >> figuring out what this control might do. Even stranger than this, I doubt if >> it is a button at all, because normally when you ask VoiceOver to read you >> the help text for a particular item, if there is one, you will hear it. If >> there is none, VoiceOver will say this item has no help tag. But in this >> very case, VoiceOver stays silent, so there is something non-standard going >> on with this control. We don't know if it's a button, and there is no help >> tag yet. For now, I have no clue, so I'm skipping this button. >> >> Next, we find: >> "Logins, with twenty two items, tab panel". >> This is something we can interact with, and here is what we find inside the >> area: >> Button. Vo right: >> Button. Vo right again: >> Button. >> The problem with these 3 unlabeled buttons is the same as above: it might >> not be a button, because there is no label, no help tag, and if you ask for >> the help tag, VoiceOver stays silent. Non-standard controls. Not a real >> problem if they are going to be labeled, but as of now, they are mysterious. >> >> I can go on analyzing the rest of the 1password popup, but instead I'll give >> you some tips. >> >> The tabs we found at the beginning of the 1password safari extension html >> area, are for displaying tab sheets, as you expect. However, going over them >> with the VoiceOver cursor won't tell you what they do. So, it might be an >> idea to just click on them the regular way using VoiceOver, and then see >> what happens on the rest of the html area. >> >> If you perform the click with VoiceOver using VO space, and the tab control >> is a standard one, then the app you are using will carry out the default >> event for that control, usually, but not always, being equal to a single >> mouse click, and it won't know that you're working with the keyboard. Simply >> said, if you VO space on a tab name, the tab contents will show up. In this >> case it won't though, because it seems a non-standard control on the screen. >> So VO spacing on the unknown tabs won't get you anywhere, and the screen >> won't change. >> >> But, for those oddities, we have another method. Bring the mouse pointer >> over to where the VoiceOver cursor is, and then simulate a mouse click with >> VoiceOver. This is different from asking VoiceOver to tell the control to >> perform its default click action. To bring the mouse, once you're focused on >> 1 of the 5 tabs, hit VO command f5. To perform the click at this location, >> issue VO shift space. Again, VO is control plus option. This time, the >> screen will change indeed. Now with some trying and memorizing, you will >> find out what the unknown tabs will display. They are as follows: >> The first tab will display your logins, to choose from. >> The second will display credit card info if you have that filled in. >> The third is for identities. >> The fourth: the strong password generator. >> The fifth tab: no clue. If you click on the fifth tab, the finder's apple >> menu is opened, so maybe there's yet another aproach to finding out what >> this tab does: click it physically, i.e.: do it using the real trackpad, and >> not a VoiceOver command for a simulation. >> >> To do that, route the mouse to the VoiceOver cursor, and then press down on >> your trackpad. Find its lower left corner without touching the glass, or >> you'll move your carefully placed mouse pointer way off, by accident. But if >> you click this fifth tab, in my case I'm thrown out of safari and returned >> to finder. >> >> So far, I have a couple logins stored inside 1password, but not many yet, >> because only an hour ago, after reading your answer Robert, I found out more >> about this interface, as more pieces of the puzzle dropped into place. >> So now we know what the tabs do, the manual can be followed: click the >> 1password toolbar button, and then click the strong password generator. For >> us it's been some fiddling, but we can do it now. >> >> Next, we should adjust settings if desired, for the password to be >> generated. Now this is easy. Just look around and you'll understand it. >> There's a strong password already there too. Hit fill in this strong >> password dialog, and the new password will be filled in on the site. So that >> is how you can give a strong password to a site. >> >> Another tip. If you want your current password for a site, I didn't find a >> way to copy this off the 1password extension. Another way to get it is to >> open the 1password application, going to your logins, finding the one you >> want, and then hitting command e on the password shown. If you don't do the >> command e, you cannot copy the text string, whereas if you turn this field >> into a known format, an edit field with normal text and a cursor, all text >> in the password field is selected by default, so hiting command c to copy, >> right after command e, will copy your password to the clipboard in os10. >> >> However, because of security, 1password won't let it sit there for long, >> quickly bring up text edit, paste it there, and then take your time again. >> That's a way to see your existing password for a site that 1password knows >> about. >> >> Now what if you know that 1password has a site with credentials, and you >> want to log into it right away. Well so far, I found 2 ways, thanks to >> Robert. >> >> 1. From the 1password application, you can hit command shift enter once you >> are focused on the login in question. The site opens, the form is filled and >> submitted and you are logged in. Fine. >> >> 2. Alternatively, you can also do this from the safari extension. Make the >> 1password html area fill up by clicking the 1password toolbar item in >> safari. Navigate into the html area, and find open in new tab. This is a >> heading, and then find the site you want to go to. Once found, VO space on >> it and you will be logged in. Mind you, because the first page load is for >> the site to appear, and then you must wait some time more, because 1password >> needs time to fill the form, submit it and have the new logged in site page >> appear. I was impatient, and that screwed the login process and I had to >> start over until I understood what was going on. >> >> I hope this will help out some other people. If I have more news about >> 1password, I'll post it here. >> Hth, >> Paul. >> >> >> Really frustrated with Mail! For real this time! >> Veronica Elsea <veron...@laurelcreekmusic.com> Aug 25 01:30PM -0700 >> >> Hi Frank and everyone! >> Thanks for the suggestion. I've just gone in and made the change of the >> custom port number so I'll watch for awhile to see what happens. Now if only >> that would make it read the unread label on my messages again. Hahahahaha! >> Thanks so much for the help. >> >> Veronica >> >> Watch and hear The Guide Dog Glee Club sing the Star-spangled Banner at >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQNLclisGqQ >> Then find more music from The Guide Dog Glee Club and Veronica Elsea at >> http://www.laurelcreekmusic.com >> Veronica Elsea, Owner >> Laurel Creek Music Designs >> Santa Cruz, California >> Phone: 831-429-6407 >> >> >> Zoom >> christopher hallsworth <christopher...@gmail.com> Aug 25 08:22PM +0100 >> >> Hello all. >> How well, in your personal opinion of course, does Zoom perform compared to >> ZoomText or other similar products on the other OS? Yes, using this again >> grins. Just my friend is coming to stay with me and I want her to have a go >> on a mac computer. She has enough vision to use magnification and can see >> pictures quite well. One important factor is can Zoom magnify 24 point print >> or better. >> Thanks for any comments on this. >> >> Audio Hijack Pro >> christopher hallsworth <christopher...@gmail.com> Aug 25 07:49PM +0100 >> >> Ok how does this sound. >> 1. Create a new session. >> 2. Set the source to audio device. >> 3. Make sure the input device is set to the correct one. >> 4. Set the output device to silent output. >> 5. Start hijacking and recording. >> I did not get any feedback when doing this. >> So the output device must mean the device to which the recording is played >> through. >> So again, how does this sound? >> Thanks! >> On 25 Aug 2012, at 13:57, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >> >> >> Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> Aug 25 02:21PM -0500 >> >> The question is this. Did you get the result you really wanted when trying >> this? Only way to know is to try. >> >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >> >> Skype name: >> barefootedray >> >> >> VMware Fusion >> christopher hallsworth <christopher...@gmail.com> Aug 25 08:19PM +0100 >> >> Ok how does this sound. >> Assign the caps lock key to the accent key. >> Never thought of this. >> On 25 Aug 2012, at 11:13, Rachel Feinberg wrote: >> >> >> iTunes Library Help >> Gerard Doody <jerrydood...@gmail.com> Aug 25 03:11PM -0400 >> >> Hi there, Do you have your itunes stuff sinked to more than one Library? >> this sort of happened to me till I sinked the library that I wanted itunes >> to use to my iphone or ipad. Then ti worked. HtH >> Gerard Doody >> jerrydood...@gmail.com >> >> >> >> On Aug 25, 2012, at 9:22 AM, Emilio Hernandez wrote: >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> Upon launching iTunes, all of my music, movies, podcasts, and television >> shows have disappeared. >> They still appear in the iTunes directory, and when trying to reimport some >> items via the automatically add to iTunes folder, they still do not appear >> in their respective sublists. >> This is unusual. I am running the latest version of iTunes. >> Does anyone have any suggestions on what to do? >> >> Thank you for your help in this matter. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> OS X rocks! >> Joseph Norton <joseph.nor...@gmail.com> Aug 25 03:10PM -0400 >> >> Hi: >> >> I just did a clean install of OS X Mountain Lion and looked at my free >> space. Out of 319 GB, I still had 312 GB avail. >> >> A typical install of Windows 7 takes up 2 or 3 times that much space. >> >> Just goes to show that you can still do tight coding if you want to. >> >> removing Carbon coppy Cloner >> "Jeff Bishop" <j...@jeffbishop.com> Aug 25 11:50AM -0700 >> >> I use App Delete and love the app. The developer is also aware of >> accessibility and is willing to make changes when issues arise <smile>. >> >> >> >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Erkens >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 12:51 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: removing Carbon coppy Cloner >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> If I'm not sure whether or not an application is leaving files behind when >> simply deleting its dot app component from my applications folder, I use app >> zapper. It looks for related files and gets rid of those as well. It costs I >> think it was some 15 dollars but it works. Not everything on the screen is >> accessible, but enough to get the job done. >> >> Hth, >> >> Paul. >> >> On Aug 24, 2012, at 9:20 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Oh, well, you see, I've had issues making bootable disks to a 1TB Buffalo >> Media 56000RPm external USB drive; and so, I thought perhaps I'd see what >> Super Duper had to offer by way of comparison. >> >> >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> >> >> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >> >> >> >> Skype name: >> >> barefootedray >> >> >> >> On Aug 24, 2012, at 2:08 PM, "Jeff Bishop" <j...@jeffbishop.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Why did you switch if you don't mind me asking? >> >> >> >> From: <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@ >> <http://googlegroups.com/> googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:20 AM >> To: <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: removing Carbon coppy Cloner >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I'm gonna switch over from Carbon copy cloner to Super Duper. Am I correct >> in guessing that there is no uninstall app for Carbon Coppy Cloner and that >> all I need do is remove it from the apps folder? >> >> >> >> Also, High time I put an anti virus app on here. Which is more accessible >> between Clamax and Soho? >> >> >> >> Thanks. >> >> >> >> >> >> Sincerely, >> >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> >> >> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >> >> >> >> Skype name: >> >> barefootedray >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en> >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en> >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> Interesting Problem >> Scott Rumery <blindfait...@gmail.com> Aug 25 02:48PM -0400 >> >> That is exactly how I have mine set up. I am with you, I have no idea why >> this is not working. I will continue to try and get it to work, and If I >> figure it out I will let the list know. >> >> Scott >> >> safari >> christopher hallsworth <christopher...@gmail.com> Aug 25 06:56PM +0100 >> >> I just learn by playing with it. I first interact with the HTML content and >> navigate the page with VO-arrow keys. I also use the web item rotor with >> VO-U. To activate a link it is the same as activating any other object. The >> only issue I am having is I cannot tell a file is being downloaded at all. >> During my transition I have known to download the same file multiple times >> without me knowing. Whether this can be fixed is another story. But >> otherwise Safari is great for what I use it for, browsing Facebook, >> searching the web etc etc. >> On 25 Aug 2012, at 14:51, Walter Harper wrote: >> >> >> Restore Factory Default >> Cameron Strife <came...@cameronstrife.com> Aug 25 01:43PM -0400 >> >> Hi. If you purchased it new, I'd assume there would be a restore >> partition. If you bought it second hand and it does have a superdrive >> but did not come with the OSX dvd, then you'll need to pick up an OS >> from the app store or e bay etc. >> >> Cameron. >> >> >> >> >> >> Best GPS app for iPhone >> "Kimsan" <kim...@blindaccesstraining.com> Aug 24 08:02PM -0700 >> >> Hi, >> So can you link me to a demonstration for navigon? >> Thanks. >> >> Harry Hogue <harryhog...@gmail.com> Aug 24 10:12PM -0600 >> >> Thank you all for your helpful replies. I will look into your suggestions. I >> know back a few years ago Human Ware had a GPS system, but it was very >> expensive. I figured with the iPhone and apps that such a costly solution >> probably has bee replaced by smaller and less expensive options. >> >> Regards, >> >> Harry >> >> >> Facebook on IOS update >> Paul Hunt <prhu...@att.net> Aug 24 10:16PM -0500 >> >> It came in this morning. >> >> >> Fleksy >> "Tammy" <tcl...@rogers.com> Aug 24 10:44PM -0400 >> >> Hi, >> >> yes I tend to touch very lightly when in this mode because the focus really >> does move around quite easily. Thankfully I don't have to use it for much. >> A suggestion might be to add frequently used words to the dictionary before >> you use the program so that it will know and use them already. >> >> hth >> >> Tammy >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jamie Tachiyama >> Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:41 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Fleksy >> >> It is true that you can enter things this way. One thing I have noticed >> though, it seems to slide over to the next letter vary easily. I generally >> find it to be slower to enter text this way due to the amount of corrections >> I have to make. >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> ML .1, first look. >> Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> Aug 24 06:47PM -0700 >> >> Glad I could help Veronica. It was driving me nuts to having to >> interact with pages before getting to the content, couldn't believe >> when I discovered toggling VO off and on fixed it. 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