Have you tried the vo and F to search for the start of the page such as searching for sort. Sometimes that works. If not what about setting the rotor for static text and using VO and U to see if it would pick it up that way. It'd be a bit of a pain but it might work.
Becky On Jul 30, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > Is the only thing you have tried tabbing? I normally arrow to where I want, > or use navigation keys to get there. Once I find the frame, I interact > (vo-shift-down arrow). You may not have tab set to interact automatically, > which could be the problem. > On Jul 30, 2012, at 4:53 PM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Harry, the issue we are dealing with now is on the Discussions Board. There >> is a content frame with text that must be read. I cannot tab to this frame, >> no speech is given from within the Discussion Board. Text is visible on the >> screen, but I cannot figure out how to access it. Do you have any specific >> suggestions on how to access content within this frame? Thanks. >> >> Les >> On Jul 30, 2012, at 4:43 PM, Harry Hogue <harryhog...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Les, >>> >>> I successfully use VO with Safari and Blackboard all of the time. It is a >>> good idea to change the settings to "Text only," or "Plain text," I'm not >>> sure how it words it. It will be under "Personalization" or something like >>> that. I just graduated this May and am starting another program this fall, >>> so I don't have an active Blackboard account to look at at the moment. >>> >>> I do hope this helps, however. >>> >>> Please note that Safari has never given me any problems. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Harry >>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Alex, >>>> >>>> The user must log in, otherwise that would be a great idea. Thanks. >>>> >>>> Les >>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm not sure, in that case. I never had much luck with blackboard, but >>>>> haven't had to use it for about three years, so they may have improved >>>>> things since I was forced to endure it. I do know that they optimized it >>>>> for Internet Explorer, so maybe it is something in Safari? You said you >>>>> could see the text visually, which is odd as vo seems to not see it. Is >>>>> there any way you could give us a link, or does the page require the user >>>>> to log in? >>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 4:07 PM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Alex, >>>>>> >>>>>> I think we tried interacting with the frame, and still could not read >>>>>> the text. I should mention that when I tabbed over and highlighted the >>>>>> text in the frame, VO did not inform me of any text, so this is why I'm >>>>>> figuring we have a problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> Les >>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:20 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Have the student interact with the frame, and all should work as >>>>>>> expected. Don't forget to stop interacting when you are done reading >>>>>>> the text, or vo will keep navigating only what is inside the frame. You >>>>>>> can change this in the vo utility (vo-f8) if you want to, under the web >>>>>>> tab of the navigation category I believe. >>>>>>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have a student who's trying to use Safari on the Blackboard online >>>>>>>>> learning system. In the "Discussion Board" section, we are unable to >>>>>>>>> read plain text in a thread because the text is framed. I'm not sure >>>>>>>>> if it's possible to remove the frame or somehow navigate the frame. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please let me know if this is possible. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Les >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone, please forgive typographical errors! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 29, 2012, at 6:13 PM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Blaise, lots of useful links here where you can get loads of >>>>>>>>>> material for using the Mac. I'd encourage you to get whatever you >>>>>>>>>> feel is appropriate, see below. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> From: Esther <mori...@mac-access.net> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: userguide vor voiceover in 10.8, help pls! >>>>>>>>>>> Date: July 29, 2012 2:27:27 PM EDT >>>>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hello Gigi and Others, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There is a VoiceOver downloads page that gives a link to the >>>>>>>>>>> Lighthouse for the Blind in San Francisco, but so far it has not >>>>>>>>>>> been updated for Mountain Lion. So the links for downloading the >>>>>>>>>>> VoiceOver Getting Started Guide in a web browser, and also to the >>>>>>>>>>> electronic braille version in .brf format, still point to Lion. As >>>>>>>>>>> far as I can tell, versions for Mountain Lion have yet been >>>>>>>>>>> prepared on these sites. At some point this page should be >>>>>>>>>>> updated, but right now it points to Lion versions: >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/voiceover/downloads.html >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It might help your friend to review some of the Vision Australia >>>>>>>>>>> podcasts on working with VoiceOver. Also, you can check the >>>>>>>>>>> AppleVis Guides section: >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides >>>>>>>>>>> • "A Guide to Making the Switch from Using a Windows Screen Reader >>>>>>>>>>> to VoiceOver On a Mac" >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/guide-making-switch-using-windows-screen-reader-voiceover-mac >>>>>>>>>>> • "VoiceOver Keyboard Shortcuts for Mac OS X" >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/voiceover-keyboard-shortcuts-mac-os-x >>>>>>>>>>> • "General Keyboard Shortcuts for Mac OS X" >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/general-keyboard-shortcut-commands-mac-os-x >>>>>>>>>>> • "VoiceOver Gestures for Use with a Multi-Touch TrackPad on Mac OS >>>>>>>>>>> X" >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.applevis.com/guides/voiceover-gestures-use-multi-touch-trackpad-mac-os-x >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Incidentally, web versions of the "VoiceOver Getting Started" >>>>>>>>>>> guides for Mountain Lion in many different languages seem to be up, >>>>>>>>>>> I'm a little puzzled why William didn't automatically get this by >>>>>>>>>>> arrowing down to the last element of the VoiceOver help menu >>>>>>>>>>> (brought up with VO-H). I don't have Mountain Lion installed yet, >>>>>>>>>>> so I can't check the language localizations from the loaded >>>>>>>>>>> packages, but the general rule for Mountain Lion seems to be that >>>>>>>>>>> you append the language localization code to the web address. So >>>>>>>>>>> you start with "help.apple.com", slash, "voiceover", slash, "info", >>>>>>>>>>> slash, "guide", slash, "10.8", slash, and then add your >>>>>>>>>>> localization code. If you don't add a localization, it defaults to >>>>>>>>>>> English, and resolves to an ending of "English.lproj/index.html". >>>>>>>>>>> This is: >>>>>>>>>>> http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/English.lproj/index.html >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In general, most language localization codes are two letters, >>>>>>>>>>> followed by a period and the five letter word "lproj" and end with >>>>>>>>>>> a slash, or a slash followed by "index.html" (either should work). >>>>>>>>>>> But the older way is to type out the language, such as "Dutch" and >>>>>>>>>>> "German" and "English", so it's a bit confusing that you use >>>>>>>>>>> "German.lproj" or "Dutch.lproj" while French, Greek, Danish, and >>>>>>>>>>> Finnish use the newer two letter code convention of "fr.lproj", >>>>>>>>>>> "el.lproj", "da.lproj", and "fi.lproj" (with lower case letters). >>>>>>>>>>> In the case of Chinese, to distinguish between simplified >>>>>>>>>>> characters and traditional characters, the language code adds a two >>>>>>>>>>> letter country designation in caps after an underbar: "zh_CN.lproj" >>>>>>>>>>> and "zh_TW.lproj", so the VoiceOver user guides in these versions >>>>>>>>>>> become: >>>>>>>>>>> • Chinese (Simplified Characters) >>>>>>>>>>> http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/zh_CN.lproj/index.html >>>>>>>>>>> • Chinese (Traditional Characters) >>>>>>>>>>> http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.8/zh_TW.lproj/index.html >>>>>>>>>>> But in most cases, there's a simple two letter code for the >>>>>>>>>>> language, such as "ar" for Arabic, "ja" for Japanese, "pl" for >>>>>>>>>>> Polish, etc. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Anyone who has trouble viewing current "VoiceOver Getting Started" >>>>>>>>>>> guides for Mountain Lion in their language can try this scheme, or >>>>>>>>>>> post back with questions. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> HTH. Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Esther >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 28, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Esther >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for the information on the voiceover user guide for >>>>>>>>>>>> Mountain lion. I have however, an additional question. Last year, >>>>>>>>>>>> I downloaded a brf file from the Apple website for voiceover under >>>>>>>>>>>> snow Leopard. I also bought the 2 volume set from the San >>>>>>>>>>>> Francisco Lighthouse, and back then there was a link on the Apple >>>>>>>>>>>> web site to go there to do it. >>>>>>>>>>>> I have a blind friend who has decided to switch to a Mac. >>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, she is going to do something that would be difficult >>>>>>>>>>>> under windows. A sighted friend of hers is going to get her Mac >>>>>>>>>>>> first, and my friend is going to learn voice over on it. She wants >>>>>>>>>>>> to read the manual ahead of time, so do you know if there is >>>>>>>>>>>> another link for getting a DRF file for this? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Eugenia Firth >>>>>>>>>>>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Have a great day, >>>>> Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) >>>>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > Have a great day, > Alex (msg sent from Mac Mini) > mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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