Hi there! 
So, if I might ask, how you guys dealing with this problem in the windows 
world? I mean, if you were using Jaws, how do they use the voices differently 
so to make sense for you there?
Hm, I think I am getting a little off topic here.
Sorry.

Nektarios.

On Jul 28, 2012, at 8:36 PM, Johanna Herranen <johannamaria.herra...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

> Hi,
> I'm glad things are working for you guys. Apple rocks indeed, but I have to 
> say, we finns weren't so lucky. New Finnish Mikko voice is now made in such a 
> way, that it tries to read English correctly. Finnish and English have very 
> different phonetics, and so this causes some conflicts in Finnish then. Also, 
> if someone is depending on speech only, in some cases there is absolutely no 
> way to know what actually is on the screen.  There are conflicts like: word 
> join. To join in English, but that actually is a Finnish word also. It is 
> indeed very very annoying if a Finnish synth tries to detect English words 
> and pronounce them the correct Enblish way -- especially if the word in 
> question was meant to be a Finnish word and mean to be pronounced 
> differently. Yes, I know there is a way to tell VoiceOver how to pronounce 
> things, but this is a huge issue, and just making a customized dictionary 
> won't fix it.  
> 
> Also, there still are issues with the Finnish braille table. The best 
> solution at the moment is just to use the Swedish table. There at least most 
> of the things are  the same as in correct Finnish table. 
> I found a workaround  to get back my older Nuance voice, otherwise I would 
> now be pulling my hair out. I really hope all these language issues will get 
> fixed at some point -- the sooner, the better. 
> 
> Johanna
> On Jul 28, 2012, at 8:15 PM, Nektarios Mallas <nmal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hello.
>> Most of what you said is also true for The Greek language. Voice over now 
>> speaks like a native Greek speaker, smile!!! 
>> They also gave a new excellent female Greek voice. 
>> They also corrected some Braille issues with the language. 
>> Apple rocks!!!
>> Nektarios.
>> 
>> On Jul 28, 2012, at 5:22 PM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> All the speech bugs that i wanted to be fixed in the Swedish 
>>> Nuance/Realspeak voices are indeed fixed. The Swedish Oskar voice no longer 
>>> clashes with the system voice making the system voice go silent. The 
>>> strange announcing of characters when typing with typing echo set to 
>>> characters are gone and so is the pitch bug, where the Realspeak voice 
>>> suddenly would go either up or down in pitch for no apparent reason. Beware 
>>> though that after installation of Mountain lion you have to go to "program 
>>> update" and choose to update everything, and then you will get the voices 
>>> you want.
>>> I'm surpriced dictation isn't available in Dutch, since it's one of the 
>>> "big" languages. What doesn't surprice me in the least though is that the 
>>> dictation feature isn't available in Swedish, and probably never will be.
>>> /Krister
>>> 
>>> 25 jul 2012 kl. 22:12 skrev William Windels <william.wind...@gmail.com>:
>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> I haven't still 10.8 because the update program of apple has problems but, 
>>>> I can already write some toughts because of things I have heard of others:
>>>> 
>>>> For non-English users, 10.8 seems not so powerful and complete.
>>>> I have heard that the speech bug  for the nuance voices isn't fixed since 
>>>> the introduction a year ago ;)
>>>> my address, william.wind...@gmail.com is spoken as willia.m@gmai.l
>>>> 
>>>> If this is really true, is this a joke that they don't fix this after a 
>>>> year?
>>>> 
>>>> Also,  the dictation function that is introduced in 10.8 covers only a few 
>>>> languages and no dutch at the moment. I am courious when they will update 
>>>> their languages.
>>>> 
>>>> I'll not completely negative about the new version until I have tested 
>>>> myself for a while but I'll always critical about new versions since they 
>>>> fix bugs very slow sometimes.
>>>> 
>>>> Any comments are appreciated,
>>>> 
>>>> kind regards,
>>>> William Windels
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