Um, thank you, but I was actually referring to the in-application help which is 
provided saying things such as "click and drag over here, etc."

Harry

On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:40 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote:

> Mighty sorry excuse; since, after all, the manual is inside Voice Over help 
> and gives instructions for how to use Voice Over from the keyboard 
> perspective.
> 
> 
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
> 
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
> 
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
> 
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 6:41 PM, Harry Hogue wrote:
> 
>> That's probably true.  Often, many of us don't want to read the manual, 
>> myself included, because we're afraid it'll take too much time.  In my case, 
>> however, I'm often afraid that it won't give the VoiceOver information I 
>> need, but instead the mouse equivalents.  At least that's my reason/excuse.  
>> Haha.
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Harry
>> 
>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Maybe by taking the plunge, then, when you find out, coming on a list like 
>>> this and passing along your newly acquired knowledge.  Also, How much you 
>>> want to bet there's a new VO user guide imbedded in ML which will tell 
>>> about those things.
>>> 
>>> Just RTFM, (read the friendly manual) so to speak.  Funny how few of us 
>>> bother with such as user guides and manuals and so forth.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>> 
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>> 
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>> 
>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 6:25 PM, Harry Hogue wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Strange.  I often wonder how we're supposed to learn these things.  :)  
>>>> Thanks much.
>>>> 
>>>> Harry
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:18 PM, Austin Seraphin <aus...@behindthecurtain.us> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> True. Vo-backslash doesn't work. Vo-space however does.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  - Austin
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 25, 2012, at 7:20 PM, Harry Hogue <harryhog...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, guys,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Not sure if others have experienced this, but in the Mail App, expanding 
>>>>>> mail messages either with command right arrow or VO+backslash doesn't 
>>>>>> seem to work.  I get a sound when I try to do it.
>>>>>> I really like the status menus, though.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Harry
>>>>>> 
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