Hi again Harry.
If you have a braille display, and I think you said you did, the tabs will 
appear like the letter i with a dot below it. The carriage returns will look 
like the letter m with a dot below it. So, if you type in TextEdit in either 
grade 2 or computer braille, you can see the control characters displayed so 
you can find out if you missed putting in a tab. Because, if you forget one, of 
course, your text will be in the wrong column. 

You can turn on control characters by saying yes to see dots 7 and 8. This is 
one option I wish we were able to turn the display of control characters on and 
off. 

I do this all the time because I have four columns I need to separate in my 
braille proofreading reports. Although I could use Numbers to do this, I found 
TextEdit better since it produces rtf files, and it is ore flexible for my 
reports. 


Eugenia Firth
gigifi...@sbcglobal.net



On Jul 11, 2012, at 1:26 PM, Harry Hogue wrote:

> Oh, wow.  That's fascinating.  So by putting a tab between each 
> world/designation, it will automatically put them in separate columns?  Thank 
> you so much; i never knew this, and this will make my translation glossaries 
> so much easier once I begin my certificate this fall.
> 
> Harry
> 
> On Jul 11, 2012, at 11:34 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
> 
>> Hi Harry. 
>> I think you have to hear one or the other. As far as I know, this is true in 
>> Windows for Excel, at least it is with Jaws. I don't remember Jaws saying 
>> anything about headers, but I believe that it does always say the column and 
>> row designations. Someone can correct me on that if I'm wrong. 
>> 
>> If you're inputting a whole bunch of things, you might try going into 
>> TextEdit and typing what you want in the first column. If you want  column 
>> 2, then put a tab and type it. Finish out with a carriage return. Then you 
>> can select all the text with command a, and then press command c to copy. 
>> Then go to Numbers, put the cursor on the first column where you want your 
>> text to go, and then do command v to paste it. 
>> 
>> You might not need all this explanation, but I figure somebody does if you 
>> don't. I do this procedure all the time because I get thirty or forty 
>> entries that are similar that I want to put into Numbers. I've found it's 
>> faster to do it through TextEdit. I assume you could do it with Pages as 
>> well, but I've found TextEdit to be easier. 
>>  
>> Eugenia Firth
>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 10, 2012, at 11:50 PM, Harry Hogue wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi, I changed those numbers to zero, and that seemed to fix the issue.  I 
>>> still here the column and row, though, as in A1, B1, etc.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Harry
>>> 
>>> On Jul 10, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Harry. 
>>>> Please be aware that the default in Numbers is one header column and one 
>>>> row header. Therefore, as a precaution, you might want to insert one 
>>>> column on the left in column a and a row at the top before you take out 
>>>> your headers and change it to no headers. I'm afraid if you don't do that 
>>>> first, then you might accidentally erase your top row and the first 
>>>> column. Then after you have taken out the headers, you can erase the extra 
>>>> row and column you put in as a precaution. 
>>>> 
>>>> Eugenia Firth
>>>> gigifi...@sbcglobal.net
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 10, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Harry Hogue wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm trying to figure out how I can avoid hearing, "selected header cell," 
>>>>> in Numbers when moving from row to row and column to column.  I want to 
>>>>> make a foreign language glossary for my different translations, but that 
>>>>> is extra information that I don't really need.  Intermediate verbosity 
>>>>> doesn't change it at all, and low verbosity says, "header cell, with 
>>>>> nothing else, which may or may not be alright; I've not figured that out 
>>>>> yet.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And also, since I use a Braille display, I assume there's a good way not 
>>>>> to clutter the Braille display with unnecessary information?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks so much, all you guys, for the help.  it's tremendous and 
>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Harry
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