Hi. I'm using VM4 along with a version of Jaws. Never have had any issues that Paul described.
Kawal. On 23 Jun 2012, at 14:23, Matthew Campbell wrote: > Hi. > In regards to the upgrade process, I didn't have any issues when I did this a > year or so ago. I am using NVDA as my windows screenreader and everything > when very smoothly. So smoothly in fact, that it is what made me purchase the > Fusion 4 upgrade in the first place. > In regards to the video issues, I use NVDA and as NVDA has no video > intercept, I have never gotten video intercept issues. I stopped using Jaws > about a year ago because of similar issues as well as they're insane > licensing scheme. I'm not going to go on about such a licensing scheme > because that would be getting off topic and would be insulting users of jaws. > It really is a shame that Fusion is our only option for accessibly installing > windows in a virtual environment on our Macs. Parallels and VirtualBox would > both be great options if they'd just do some work and make they're apps > accessible. > Have an awesome weekend everyone, > Matthew Campbell. > > > On 2012-06-19, at 3:42 PM, Paul Erkens wrote: > >> Hi fusion folks, >> Today I went from fusion 3 to 4. Before you do this yourself, and if you're >> still thinking whether or not to do it, here are some thoughts before you >> begin. >> >> 1. Last week, I bought fusion 4, while I had v3 running. After upgrading >> from fusion 3 to 4, which is possible using an app inside the fusion 4 disk >> image, fusion asked if I wanted to upgrade my virtual windows machine from >> version 3 to 4, to add more features and speed to it. I answered yes and it >> went ahead. When it booted though, the desktop did not come up any longer. >> My wife told me there's a message saying this and that could not be found, >> and in short I had severe windows problems after upgrading the vm from v3 to >> v4. Of course this doesn't have to happen to you, but before trusting the >> upgrade process, I would suggest you backup your entire system. Or, at least >> have your windows stuff safe so that you can access all of it outside >> windows. >> >> 2. So I started from scratch. I uninstalled fusion 3, using the uninstaller >> that is in my applications folder, and I then installed a fresh fusion 4. >> After entering my serial number, I had a blank configuration to start with. >> The fusion 4 installer is very accessible and straight forward. >> >> 3. Now here's the good news. I used an i s o file, which is just a disk >> image file that contains the entire windows installation cd. I followed the >> command n new virtual machine wizard. It asks for either a windows >> installation cd or a disk image iso file, so I gave it that. You enter some >> other minor necessities, and then windows is installed in 15 minutes or >> less, without any sighted assistance. That was also true in fusion 3, but it >> always remains to be seen in newer situations. So accessibility remains the >> same while installing windows, comparing fusion 3 and 4. >> >> 4. I had problems with my screen reader, which is an old one, called hal, >> from Dolphin oceanic limited. After installing my screen reader, which >> worked just fine under the same version of windows on my fusion v3 >> installation that I have used for over a year now, it complained about video >> problems. To compress this story: I saw other folks having issues with jaws >> in the same upgrade situation. A solution that worked for me, is to >> downgrade the file format of the virtual machine, from version 4 back to >> being fusion 3 compatible. You just interact with devices in the fusion 4 >> toolbar, interact with the scroll area where it has all settings, and almost >> at the end there, you have a compatibility button. Behind it is a dialog >> with radio buttons, that tell fusion in what file format you want to store >> the virtual machine on to the mac disk. If you set it to 3, rather than >> fusion 4 compatible, then if your jaws worked earlier, it may work just fine >> again. I don't know much about authorisations, but video wise, the problems >> may solve themselves. Downgrading your virtual machine from the fusion 4 >> format back to the 3 format, takes away newer video functions, returning you >> into an older type of emulated hardware. I hope this can help other people >> who have problems after upgrading their fusion from v3 to v4. To be clear, >> you can easily keep running fusion version 4. It's just that you need to >> roll back the file conversion process, or if you have the choice and you >> know what you know now, just don't let fusion upgrade your vm. Just a >> thought. And if you do, have a backup handy. If it does work for you and you >> are now running a windows screen reader using fusion v4, and also the v4 >> compatible vm file format, then please post back on this, so we can learn >> from each other's experience. >> >> Paul. >> On Jun 12, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Sean Murphy wrote: >> >>> Hi Maria, >>> >>> When you load VMWare, you will get options where you can tell VMWare to >>> attach the external keyboard to the Host. This is seen when you have VMWare >>> in the standard window mode, not full screen. Everytime you load VMWare, >>> you will have to connect the USB key. >>> >>> Modify the file and you will see what I mean. You might want to back it up >>> first just to be safe. >>> >>> Sean >>> On 12/06/2012, at 5:37 AM, Maria Chapman wrote: >>> >>>> Hi. if it helps it's a core i 5. >>>> >>>> thanks >>>> >>>> regards >>>> Maria and crew from australia >>>> email: >>>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com >>>> check out >>>> www.powerradio104.us >>>> where we play lots of great music >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 05/06/2012, at 12:01 AM, Chris Meredith wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Maria, >>>>> >>>>> I'm actually running Windows 8 on a MacBook Pro with 8 GB of RAM, which I >>>>> deliberately got kitted out so that I could run multiple virtual machines >>>>> without having to buy multiple computers. I can't remember what the CPU >>>>> is on the Mini, but you should certainly have enough memory. >>>>> For those of you that have gone the Bootcamp route, have any of you also >>>>> used the Windows Automated Installation Kit to create an unattended >>>>> installation file? As someone that has reliable sighted help available >>>>> approximately as frequently as they have a six digit bank balance, I'm >>>>> always on the lookout for workarounds. >>>>> On Jun 3, 2012, at 9:45 PM, Maria Chapman wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am also thinking about setting up a virtual machine. Is there a >>>>>> recommended amount of resources the virtual machine needs to run >>>>>> properly but leaving enough for the mac? Will a virtual machine run ok >>>>>> on a mac mini with 8 gigs of ram? And, how do I run a screen reader with >>>>>> an apple bluetooth keyboard? Is there a way to make this work? Or would >>>>>> i be better plugging in a standard usb keyboard? >>>>>> >>>>>> Is there anywhere i can go to read a tutorial or guide about setting up >>>>>> a virtual machine to run windows? >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> God Bless! Maria from australia >>>>>> Newbie mac user. >>>>>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com >>>>>> will get you fb as well as email & iMessage. >>>>>> skype same as email,without the gmail part. twitter bubbygirl >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 04/06/2012, at 12:46 PM, Brent Harding wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Oh, cool! I have my mac already set up with boot camp. Would I likely >>>>>>> have activation issues with JFW going back and forth between these 2 >>>>>>> methods? Would I have to take up 2 keys, or is Fusion smart enough to >>>>>>> deal with it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew Campbell" >>>>>>> <wrestling.ch...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 4:44 PM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion questions >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>> A couple of things to keep in mind. >>>>>>> 1. If you do go the boot cam route, you will need sighted assistance to >>>>>>> get windows installed. Also, you'll be able to have Fusion treat the >>>>>>> bootcamp partition as a virtual machine. This has some advantages such >>>>>>> as being able to utilized all of the Mac's resources when you need to >>>>>>> do something that needs a lot of them but still able to boot in to >>>>>>> windows quickly through fusion when you don't need to do something >>>>>>> system intensive. >>>>>>> 2. The quick install option in fusion will have fusion install windows >>>>>>> without sighted assistance. The only thing you need do after >>>>>>> installation is install you're screen reader of choice. >>>>>>> HTH, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2012-06-03, at 5:26 PM, Allison Mervis wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks Matt. Right now I'm still unsure as to whether or not I'll set >>>>>>>> up a virtual machine or do a bootcamp install, but this info was very >>>>>>>> helpful. >>>>>>>> Allison >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> From: "Matthew Campbell" <wrestling.ch...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 1:11 PM >>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: VMWare Fusion questions >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>>>> Once you shut down the VM, you're Mac will indeed have all of it's >>>>>>>>> resources once again. >>>>>>>>> HTH, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2012-06-03, at 3:51 PM, Allison Mervis wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone. >>>>>>>>>> I have a copy of Windows 7 floating around here, and I was thinking >>>>>>>>>> about playing with VMWare fusion. I have a few questions before I >>>>>>>>>> get started though. I understand that when you're setting up the >>>>>>>>>> virtual machine, you allocate a certain portion of your system >>>>>>>>>> resources in order to run it. Let's say, for example that I allocate >>>>>>>>>> four of my eight gigs of ram and 250 of my 750 gigs of hard drive >>>>>>>>>> space for the virtual machine. When I shut down the virtual machine, >>>>>>>>>> will those resources be returned to my mac? That is to say, will I >>>>>>>>>> once again have all 8 gigs of ram and 750 gigs of hard drive space >>>>>>>>>> available for use on my mac? 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