This is also not an option if you're looking to be covered by ADP and/or ODSP in Ontario, Canada. You can only buy from a list of approved vendors to be elligeable for the government to pay any percentage of the computer's cost.
Also, of course they're going to focus on the positives without advertizing the negatives. For me it sounds like more hassle than it's worth but to each his/her own. This article did get me to consider waiting until 2013 to get a Mac though. -Marc On 6/19/12, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, I sure have. some company out of Florida I believe were making them. > It is straight up, no doubt about it, illegal to run Mac OS on non branded > Apple hardware. Sure, I don't think Apple is dragging down people who are > doing this as a 1 off. But honestly, money aside for a second, I think > running the Mac OS on some generic PC lessons the Mac experience, and you > also miss out on certain things. For example, I'm assuming you can't take > advantage of a multi gesture trackpad to use in conjunction with Voiceovers, > trackpad commander? > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jun 19, 2012, at 11:04 AM, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I never heard of any businesses being sued, much less even being in >> business. I run a hackintosh here (intel core solo, 2.66 Ghz cpu, 8 GB >> ram, ASUS IL9-Pro motherboard, 1.5 TB HDD storage, DVD-r/+r >> burner/rewriter and some extras. >> >> it runs reasonably well, except that I cannot update it to 10.6.8 without >> some help (the proceedure is tricky as I also have to install a USB >> rollback driver). >> >> cost of this machine: $400. >> >> still, I cannot see spending nearly $8,000 for a top of the line machine >> (that is almost as expensive as a 80 column braille display.). >> >> -eric >> >> On Jun 18, 2012, at 8:27 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >> >>> Of course installing OSX on one of these violates the terms of the >>> license and every company that ever tried to make a business out of >>> selling hackintoshes has been sued into oblivion. Interesting from the >>> technical standpoint but be aware of what you're getting into. >>> >>> CB >>> On 6/18/12 8:41 PM, Blinkin wrote: >>>>>> All, >>>> For those who may be thinking about getting a new Mac read below. Pretty >>>> good stuff. >>>>>> From: Lifehacker <em...@lifehacker.com> >>>>>> Subject: Build the Mac Pro That You Wish Apple Released >>>>>> Date: June 18, 2012 5:04:07 PM CDT >>>>>> Reply-To: Lifehacker <em...@lifehacker.com> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> June 18th, 2012Top Story >>>>>> Build the Mac Pro That You Wish Apple Released >>>>>> >>>>>> • >>>>>> • >>>>>> • >>>>>> • >>>>>> • >>>>>> By Adam Dachis >>>>>> Last week Apple updated their Mac Pros to cutting-edge processors from >>>>>> 2010, even older graphics cards, and all the USB 2.0 ports you'll ever >>>>>> need. With a proper update unlikely until 2013, we thought we'd bridge >>>>>> the gap with Hackintoshes—the faster, cheaper Mac desktops you can >>>>>> build yourself with standard PC hardware. By making your own "Hack >>>>>> Pro" you'll get the up-to-date machine Apple won't provide, and you'll >>>>>> also save a lot of money in the process. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Mac Pro update everyone was hoping for was supposed to include >>>>>> Intel's latest Ivy Bridge processors, which were designed to be >>>>>> smaller, more powerful, and more power-efficient. With a desktop >>>>>> computer like the Mac Pro, power usage is still a fairly significant >>>>>> concern because a lack of efficiency can make for a pricier power >>>>>> bill. Additionally, with the >>>>>> immediately out-of-date Mac Pro starting at $2,499, you're already >>>>>> overpaying for a machine that's slower than the one you can build >>>>>> yourself. In this post, we're going to look at three mackintoshes you >>>>>> can create yourself, how they stack up against a comparable Mac Pro, >>>>>> and how much you'll save in the process. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Builds >>>>>> >>>>>> Ivy Bridge Hackintoshes are pretty new, and it wasn't until last week >>>>>> that OS X even supported the new processors officially. The builds >>>>>> we're looking at in this section are based on the work of people in >>>>>> the hackintosh community who've already taken the plunge. Where >>>>>> applicable, we'll mention the sources we used so you can dig deeper >>>>>> and learn more before getting started. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fast: The Entry-Level Desktops >>>>>> >>>>>> First let's start off with the entry-level machine. We're going to >>>>>> look at what Apple offers, what a hackintosh can offer, and how they >>>>>> compare in price and performance. >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple's Entry-Level Mac Pro; Total Price: $2,499 >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's what you get for that cool $2,499: >>>>>> >>>>>> • One 3.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon processor >>>>>> • 6GB of RAM (3x2GB) >>>>>> • 1TB 7200 RPM Hard Drive >>>>>> • 18x SuperDrive >>>>>> • ATI Radeon HD 5770 with 1GB GDDR5 >>>>>> • Mouse and Keyboard >>>>>> Our Entry-Level Hack Pro; Total Price: $1,148 >>>>>> Here's an entry-level Hack Pro you can build for $1,148, which is less >>>>>> than half the cost of what Apple will give you: >>>>>> >>>>>> • Cooler Master RC-692-KKN2 Case ($90) >>>>>> • Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H Motherboard ($99) >>>>>> • Intel Core i7 3770 3.4 GHz CPU ($317) >>>>>> • MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti (448 Cores) PCI-E 16X Graphics Card >>>>>> ($300) >>>>>> • 8GB Corsair DDR3 1600 MHz RAM, 2x4GB ($50) >>>>>> • 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black 7200 RPM Hard Drive ($100) >>>>>> • Corsair Professional Series 650W Modular Power Supply ($117) >>>>>> • Asus 24x DVD-RW Serial ATA Internal Drive ($17) >>>>>> • SYBA FireWire 400/800 Card ($28) >>>>>> • Mac OS X Lion Download ($30) or Thumb Drive ($69) >>>>>> So, what's the difference? >>>>>> The Hack Pro is $1,351 cheaper. Of course, you get a nice Bluetooth >>>>>> keyboard and mouse with the Mac Pro, but you can always throw in aUSB >>>>>> Bluetooth adapter and whatever keyboard and mouse you want with all >>>>>> the money you'll be saving. >>>>>> >>>>>> In terms of performance, the Mac Pro and Hack Pro are pretty evenly >>>>>> matched when it comes to the lesser-components (with the Hack Pro >>>>>> keeping a slight edge). This build even includes a FireWire 400/800 >>>>>> card so you have your standard Mac ports. Additionally, the >>>>>> motherboard supports USB 3.0 so you can have even faster data >>>>>> transfers than the current Mac Pro. The primary differences between >>>>>> Apple's entry-level Mac Pro and this build are between the CPU and >>>>>> graphics card. The NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti in our build offers >>>>>> significantly better performance, so if your needs are GPU-intensive >>>>>> you're in much better shape with the Hack Pro. When it comes to the >>>>>> CPU, Apple's Mac Pro offers a 3.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon processor >>>>>> to our 3.4 GHz Core i7. While the Xeon is a higher grade than the Core >>>>>> i7, the one Apple's using is kind of old and just not as fast. In fact >>>>>> CPU benchmarks tested both and the Core i7 came in at 10,455 and the >>>>>> Xeon at 6,070 (higher numbers are better). While benchmarks aren't >>>>>> everything, that's a pretty large performance gap between Apple's >>>>>> latest offering and a machine you can build for half the price. >>>>>> >>>>>> The bottom line: The Hack Pro is faster than the Mac Pro in every >>>>>> category and it costs less than half what you'd pay Apple. >>>>>> >>>>>> Faster: The Mid-Range Workstations >>>>>> >>>>>> Next we've got the mid-range machine. On Apple's side this means >>>>>> almost a $1,000 price hike. For the Hack Pro it's a difference of only >>>>>> around $100. >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple's Mid-Range Mac Pro; Price: $3,424 >>>>>> Here's what you get for your $3,424: >>>>>> >>>>>> • One 3.33 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon processor >>>>>> • 8GB of RAM (4x2GB) >>>>>> • 2TB 7200 RPM Hard Drive >>>>>> • 18x SuperDrive >>>>>> • ATI Radeon HD 5870 with 1GB GDDR5 >>>>>> • Mouse and Keyboard >>>>>> Our Mid-Range Hack Pro; Price: $1,276 >>>>>> Here's an mid-range Hack Pro you can build for $1,276, or a little >>>>>> more than one-third of the cost of a similar Mac Pro: >>>>>> >>>>>> • Cooler Master RC-692-KKN2 Case ($90) >>>>>> • Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H Motherboard ($99) >>>>>> • Intel Core i7 3770K 3.5 GHz CPU ($350) >>>>>> • MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti (448 Cores) PCI-E 16X Graphics Card >>>>>> ($300) >>>>>> • 8GB Corsair DDR3 1600 MHz RAM, 2x4GB ($50) >>>>>> • 2TB Western Digital Caviar Black 7200 RPM Hard Drive ($195) >>>>>> • Corsair Professional Series 650W Modular Power Supply ($117) >>>>>> • Asus 24x DVD-RW Serial ATA Internal Drive ($17) >>>>>> • SYBA FireWire 400/800 Card ($28) >>>>>> • Mac OS X Lion Download ($30) or Thumb Drive ($69) >>>>>> So, what's the difference? >>>>>> The Hack Pro is $2,148 cheaper and bears the same advantages over the >>>>>> Mac Pro as our entry-level comparisonwith one exception: while there >>>>>> are compatible motherboards for the 6-core Ivy Bridge processors, they >>>>>> aren't as widely used just yet and require a few more difficult steps >>>>>> than we want to throw at you. As a result, we opted to stick with a >>>>>> slightly faster but nonetheless quad-core processor. This means that >>>>>> Apple's Mac Pro has two additional processor cores. There shouldn't be >>>>>> much of a real-world advantage here, but that's what you're >>>>>> sacrificing. If you're okay with having a much faster, much cheaper >>>>>> machine with two less cores then the Hack Pro is the way to go. >>>>>> >>>>>> Fastest: The High-End Powerhouses >>>>>> >>>>>> If you want one of the fastest Hack or Mac Pros you can get, here are >>>>>> your options. We decided to go all out, so you'll want a fairly fat >>>>>> wallet in either case. >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple's High-End Mac Pro; Price: $7,699 >>>>>> Here's what you get for your $7,699: >>>>>> >>>>>> • Two 3.06 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon (for 12 total cores) >>>>>> • 16GB of RAM (8x2GB) >>>>>> • 2TB 7200 RPM Hard Drive >>>>>> • 512GB Solid State Drive >>>>>> • 18x SuperDrive >>>>>> • ATI Radeon HD 5870 with 1GB GDDR5 >>>>>> • Mouse and Keyboard >>>>>> Our Mid-Range Hack Pro; Price: $2,012 >>>>>> Here's a high-end Hack Pro you can build for $2,012, or slightly more >>>>>> than a quarter of the cost of the comparable Mac Pro: >>>>>> >>>>>> • Cooler Master RC-692-KKN2 Case ($90) >>>>>> • Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD5H Motherboard ($190) >>>>>> • Intel Core i7 3770K 3.5 GHz CPU ($350) >>>>>> • MSI NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 Ti (448 Cores) PCI-E 16X Graphics Card >>>>>> ($300) >>>>>> • 16GB Corsair DDR3 1600 MHz RAM, 4x4GB ($95) >>>>>> • 2TB Western Digital Caviar Black 7200 RPM Hard Drive ($195) >>>>>> • OCZ Vertex 4 512GB Solid State Drive ($600) >>>>>> • Corsair Professional Series 650W Modular Power Supply ($117) >>>>>> • Asus 24x DVD-RW Serial ATA Internal Drive ($17) >>>>>> • SYBA FireWire 400/800 Card ($28) >>>>>> • Mac OS X Lion Download ($30) or Thumb Drive ($69) >>>>>> So, what's the difference? >>>>>> The obvious advantage the Mac Pro has over the Hack Pro is that it has >>>>>> three times the number of cores. That said, you'd be paying almost >>>>>> four times as much for just that. With a difference of $5,657, you >>>>>> could add another nine 512GB SSDs to this Hack Pro build and still >>>>>> have money left over. (Technically you'd run out of SATA connections >>>>>> for the drives, so don't actually do this.) So do the twelve cores >>>>>> matter? Only if you have applications that can actually take advantage >>>>>> of them. If not, you'll be wasting a lot of money and power. While >>>>>> this Mac Pro might be able to best its Hackintosh counterpart in some >>>>>> situations, we don't think that's worth the cost. We still say stick >>>>>> with the Hack Pro, unless you really need 12 cores. >>>>>> >>>>>> At this point it's worth noting that the Hack Pro builds haven't >>>>>> changed much throughout the comparison. The graphics card was always >>>>>> faster, so it wasn't necessary to find a faster one. The CPU can hold >>>>>> its own against old Xeon processors so that wasn't much of an issue, >>>>>> either. When it came to the high-end build, we intended to offer a >>>>>> 240GB SSDinstead of the 512GB option, but Apple only allows you to add >>>>>> 512GB SSDs to your Mac Pro. If you don't need a gigantic solid state >>>>>> drive, you can save yourself about $400 by cutting the space in half. >>>>>> >>>>>> It all comes down to this: when you start upgrading a Mac Pro, you >>>>>> spend a lot of money in the process. When you upgrade a Hack Pro, you >>>>>> don't. You also get a wider selection of what you can use in the >>>>>> machine. The entry-level model we put >>>>>> together is really fast, and barely over $1,000. It's still fast >>>>>> enough to rival the high-end Mac Pro. Until Apple figures out how to >>>>>> handle its professional machines, hackintoshes are going to be the way >>>>>> to go for desktop builds—especially on the higher end of things. >>>>>> >>>>>> Additional Hardware Resources >>>>>> >>>>>> These Hack Pro builds were put together thanks to a great (but >>>>>> slightly outdated) build guide by tonymacx86. They were updated for >>>>>> Ivy Bridge by reading posts in the build section of the tonymacx86 >>>>>> forums (like this one and this one). Be sure to check out those >>>>>> resources if you want to learn more about these builds or swap out any >>>>>> of the parts we chose. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Hackintosh Process >>>>>> >>>>>> Buying a bunch of parts is the starting point, but you still have to >>>>>> actually build your hackintosh. Fortunately, we've got you covered in >>>>>> all aspects. Here are a few resources we've put together to take you >>>>>> through the entire process—even if you run into problems: >>>>>> >>>>>> • How to Build a Computer from Scratch - Read this if you need help >>>>>> building the actual computer. >>>>>> • The Always Up-to-Date Guide to Building a Hackintosh - Read this >>>>>> for information on how to install OS X on your custom hardware. >>>>>> • BridgeHelper - This is a utility you'll want to read about and >>>>>> download, as it'll give you native Ivy Bridge support. >>>>>> • Learn About All the Special Files That Help Your Hackintosh Run - >>>>>> Once you're up and running, it's good >>>>>> to know what's making that possible. Here's a quick overview of all >>>>>> the special files that make your Hackintosh do its thing. >>>>>> • Install Mountain Lion on Your Hackintosh - Mountain Lion isn't out >>>>>> yet, but here's how you can install it if you can't wait. >>>>>> • Best Practices When Dual-Booting a Hackintosh - Want to run Linux >>>>>> and/or Windows, too? Here are the best practices to follow. >>>>>> • How to Troubleshoot a Hackintosh - If something goes wrong, consult >>>>>> this guide for tips on how to fix it. >>>>>> That should be everything you need to know. We hope you enjoy your new >>>>>> Hack Pro that you didn't have to wait for Apple to build for you! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> • >>>>>> A Closer Look at iOS 6, Much Ado About Unlimited Data, and the Battle >>>>>> of the Home Theater Platforms >>>>>> • >>>>>> Buying Happiness >>>>>> • >>>>>> A Stress-Free Guide to Remembering to Follow Up at Work >>>>>> • >>>>>> Build the Mac Pro That You Wish Apple Released >>>>>> • >>>>>> LastPass, Our Favorite Password Management Tool, Updates with Better >>>>>> Look, Credit Monitoring, and More >>>>>> • >>>>>> How to Flake Out on Someone Gracefully >>>>>> • >>>>>> How 30 Days Without Social Media Changed My Life >>>>>> More Stories on Lifehacker » >>>>>> malar...@gmail.com: Change your e-mail address | Unsubscribe >>>>>> Gawker Media, 210 Elizabeth Street, Floor 4, New York, NY 10012 >>>>>> Terms of use | Mailing List Policy >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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