did that, it still comes up randomly.

Jenny
On May 1, 2012, at 4:01 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

> Hello Jenny,
> 
> Admittedly, I have not been paying close attention to this thread so forgive
> me for suggesting something that has already been posted but, have you
> considered turning off the login screen?  
> 
> All things being equal and security concerns aside, if you are the only
> user, there really is no reason to have it activated at startup.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jenny Keller
> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 1:23 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: voiceover won't cooperate
> 
> I know it would be a good thing to have an apple store look at it, but the
> store is an hour away so I don't see that as an option.
> 
> I have had someone look at it and it's just the log in screen.
> 
> I log in and it still won't talk.
> 
> I'll see what I can do, but if I can't get someone to take me to have
> surgery in another town, I doubt very seriously I can get someone to take me
> to fix my computer.
> 
> Thanks for the info though.
> 
> Jenny
> On May 1, 2012, at 3:19 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:
> 
>> If you think it is a problem that could be fixed at the Apple Store, then
> I suggest you beg one of your friends to take you there.  You have a one
> year warranty on the computer and if you didn't drop it or spill water on
> it, then 99/100 times it will be fixed for free at the Apple store in the
> first year of service.
>> 
>> So you might be saving several hundred dollars if you get there before
> June. 
>> 
>> On the other hand, just getting somebody around who can see what is going
> on with your system at start-up might be all you need.  Though in some
> cases, hitting control-tab after a couple minutes gets things  in a normal
> state.  
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> 
>> Jonathan
>> 
>> Jonathan C. Cohn
>> jonc...@cox.net
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 1, 2012, at 12:33 PM, Jenny Keller wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh boy, that's not in my budget.
>>> 
>>> I guess I'll just have to deal with it.
>>> 
>>> I have a monitor and mouse connected to it so that isn't the problem.
>>> 
>>> I just got it last June, so I don't know what the deal is.
>>> 
>>> I'll just have to deal with it as I've said cause I can't afford to go to
> the town where the apple store is, and sure can't afford to pay for them to
> look at it, uch less fix it.
>>> 
>>> Crap.
>>> 
>>> Jenny
>>> On May 1, 2012, at 10:57 AM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>>> 
>>>> You will probably not like my answer; I never get that problem on my 
>>>> Mac Mini.  Even back when I first got my Mini and did not have a 
>>>> monitor connected, VO wouldn't start automatically after I logged in 
>>>> but I got the same behavior every time I started my machine.  One 
>>>> thing different with my setup from yours is I intentionally have my 
>>>> machine set to require a login each time.  I also have VO enabled 
>>>> for the login screen.  After I hooked up a cheap monitor,VO starts 
>>>> up properly every time and since I have Terminal set as one of the 
>>>> apps to be started at login time, I have consistent focus to the
> desktop.
>>>> All that is fine here.
>>>> 
>>>> If your machine keeps doing this on a repeated basis, you ot to take 
>>>> it into the Apple store (if possible) and have a genius take a look 
>>>> at it; wonder if there is a hardware issue or something.
>>>> 
>>>> I remember you asking this question some time ago but I didn't 
>>>> recall anyone answering it either.
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/1/12, Jenny Keller <jlperd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Every other time I turn on my computer I get the log in screen, and 
>>>>> the only reason I know that is because I have just barely enough vision
> to see it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Voice over is set to start during that screen but it doesn't.  I 
>>>>> log into the system, which it's not supposed to ask me to do anyway 
>>>>> because it's set to go directly to the desk top, and when I goes to 
>>>>> the desk top, there is a box that since voice over won't come on 
>>>>> either automatically or with command
>>>>> F5 I don't know what is going on.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It will allow me to use VO M to access the apple menu to shut down 
>>>>> properly, and then when I restart the computer the desktop pops up and
> all is well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What on earth is going on?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jenny
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