Yes, I agree. When I had a lot of data in Tables, I had to wait for ever. This is a problem in Tables. I have never discovered a way round it. On 24 Feb 2012, at 06:44, Jürgen Fleger wrote:
> Simon, I tried it and after nearly 5 minutes of hearing the message "Tables > busy" I gave up. But as I mentioned before: I use Sheets as a two dimensional > note pad and so it might be because of a lot of text in each sheet. > Am 24.02.2012 um 07:37 schrieb Simon Cavendish: > >> Jurgen, changing sheets in Tables has always worked for me by pressing >> command + option + right or left arrow key. The larger the sheet the longer >> it takes though for Tables to change to the next sheet. In the latest >> update, again you do not necessarily know that the sheet has been changed so >> you have to try and move your cursor to see weather you can start reading it. >> On 23 Feb 2012, at 19:47, Jürgen Fleger wrote: >> >>> OK, that's interesting. I thought you might do it this way. So it is not >>> possible to change just a part of the content of a cell. You have to change >>> the whole content. >>> I opened an excel file with several sheets in Tables and tried to switch >>> between the sheets by pressing CMD + Option + arrow right or left. It >>> didn't work. Tables was always busy. Do you have experiences with switching >>> sheets in Tables? Did it work for you? >>> >>> Jürgen >>> Am 23.02.2012 um 17:51 schrieb Bejarano, Rafael P.: >>> >>>> When I want to change the contents of a particular cell, I position the >>>> cursor on the data-entry field. Then, I arrow over to the cell that I >>>> want to edit. Next, I press the delete (back-space) key to delete the >>>> cell's contents. Finally, I type in the new information that I wish to >>>> store in that cell. >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf Of Jürgen Fleger [apple-engl...@fleger.net] >>>> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:47 AM >>>> To: Mac Visionaries Visionaries >>>> Subject: Tables [was:] Re: numbers >>>> >>>> No Rafael, that's not what I asked for. I know how to enter data. But I >>>> want to change existing data in the cells. >>>> Imagine you have an address of a friend in a cell. His telephone number >>>> changes and you want to change just the number. How to do this in Tables? >>>> I don't see this important possibility accessible with VoiceOver. >>>> Again: how to change specific data in a cell? >>>> Not entering data in an empty cell. That's easy. >>>> Hopefully my question is clearer now. >>>> Jürgen >>>> Am 22.02.2012 um 16:26 schrieb Bejarano, Rafael P.: >>>> >>>>> Tables has a data entry field. That is where data are entered into each >>>>> cell. If you cannot find the data entry field on your own, you may >>>>> benefit from sighted help to find it the first time. Place your cursor >>>>> in the field, making sure VO is not locked. You can then type or paste >>>>> in data and formulae. If you type in the data entry field, press the >>>>> return (enter) key to get the data into the cell. The arrow keys are >>>>> used to move between cells. >>>>> >>>>> Rafael >>>>> On Feb 22, 2012, at 2:17 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello Rafael, >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks for your hints. So far Tables works fine. >>>>>> >>>>>> But what I meant was how to edit a cell and change inserted content. >>>>>> That doesn't work here for me. >>>>>> >>>>>> As far as I could find out I have to enter the edit mode of a chosen >>>>>> cell by pressing F2. VO anounces "edit". But then it's not possible to >>>>>> read or delete single characters or to navigate through the content of a >>>>>> cell just by using the arrow keys. Of course I can navigate by using VO >>>>>> + arrow keys but. I should say that I use a sheet like a two dimensional >>>>>> notepad. I don't use it as a calculator and so I don't need formulas in >>>>>> a cell. But to take notes and so I enter a lot of text in it. So it's >>>>>> quite important for me to delete parts of the text and enter new content. >>>>>> >>>>>> So: How do you delete parts of text in a cell and how to enter just one >>>>>> word in a text of a cell? Deleting a whole cell is easily possible. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks and all the best >>>>>> Jürgen >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Am 22.02.2012 um 05:45 schrieb Bejarano, Rafael P.: >>>>>> >>>>>>> If you are using an Intel-based Mac, then the first thing to do when >>>>>>> you open the Tables application is to get the cursor out of the table. >>>>>>> Press Shift, Control, Option, up-arrow together, in order to get out of >>>>>>> the table where the cursor is pointing. Press this key combination >>>>>>> again to get out of the spreadsheet. Do these things first, or the >>>>>>> following instructions won't make sense. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Basically, there are two ways to read a cell's contents in Tables. The >>>>>>> first way is to place the cursor over the field in which one enters >>>>>>> numbers, formulae, and so on. If you choose this option, make sure VO >>>>>>> is not locked, so that you can use the arrow keys to move from cell to >>>>>>> cell (i.e., left arrow to move to the left, bottom arrow to move down, >>>>>>> etc.). This is a simple option that allows you to navigate from cell >>>>>>> to cell, to read each cell's contents, and to enter data into >>>>>>> individual cells, all from the data-entry field. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The second way to move around in Tables is somewhat more complicated. >>>>>>> To make things easier, first lock VO (by pressing >>>>>>> control-option-semicolon). Next, enter the spreadsheet, by pressing >>>>>>> shift and the down-arrow key together. At this level, you will be able >>>>>>> to move the VO cursor with the arrow keys and read the letters >>>>>>> designating the columns (i.e., Column A, Column B, etc.), as well as >>>>>>> the row numbers (i.e., Row 1, Row 2, etc.). To access the individual >>>>>>> cells, navigate to the table (VO says "table when you've found it). >>>>>>> With VO still locked, press the shift and down-arrow keys together >>>>>>> again. That will put you in the table of cells, from which point >>>>>>> onward you can just use the arrow keys to navigate from cell to cell. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any other questions, and >>>>>>> I'll do my best to try to answer them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cordially, >>>>>>> Rafael >>>>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] >>>>>>> On Behalf Of Jürgen Fleger [apple-engl...@fleger.net] >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 3:52 PM >>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> Subject: Re: numbers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Rafael, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I tried Tables and it's much faster to work with then with Numbers. But >>>>>>> what I didn't understand was how to read text in a cell. I pressed F2 >>>>>>> to edit the cell and couldn't have VO to read text by pressing arrow >>>>>>> keys. Did I something wrong or does Tables not support VO that much? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All the best Jürgen >>>>>>> Am 20.02.2012 um 18:24 schrieb Bejarano, Rafael P.: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If your spreadsheet needs are not very complicated, you might wish to >>>>>>>> consider Tables. It's the spreadsheet app that I use on the Mac, and >>>>>>>> I really like it. It has all the usual functions, and you can enter >>>>>>>> your own formulae, as well. You can save your work as xl files, too. >>>>>>>> Creating graphs is somewhat limited, however. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Rafael Bejarano >>>>>>>> On Feb 20, 2012, at 10:16 AM, May McDonald wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good day everyone. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, I guess I can't avoid it any longer. Drn school stuff. Is there >>>>>>>> a place where I could find tutorials on how to use numbers? 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