Jonathan,

Crash Plan will let you use their app to freely backup to a friend's machine. 
HOwever, the app is not very accessible when I tried it a while back.

On Feb 5, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

> A few points.
> 
> 1. There are a couple of  full disk backup utilities (Carbon Copy Cloner and 
> SuperDuper ) come to mind immediately.
> 2. I believe at least one VM version out there creates its disk images in a 
> bundle that would allow TimeMachine to not need to copy everything for one 
> small change.
> 3.   THere is at least one off-site storage solution that allows one to use a 
> friends machine for the backups.  
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Jonathan C. Cohn
> jonc...@cox.net
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 4, 2012, at 5:35 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> In that case Chris it would make sense to share a folder as you said. I 
>> never save documents or anything in a VM for that reason. Of course if your 
>> wise you limit the VM i.e. windows to only see one folder which is a 
>> security measure.
>> 
>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>> 
>>> While I haven't done it I know that there are settings on VMWare to share 
>>> the documents folder between your Mac and Virtual windows instance. That 
>>> would be a nice way to get your windows documents backed up, although it 
>>> wouldn't help with the rest of your Windows setup. Normally you don't want 
>>> to have the virtual machine image backed up by time machine because it is a 
>>> giant monolithic file. So one little change made under Windows and the 
>>> entire multi-gigabyte disk image is flagged for backing up again. Possible 
>>> if you are on a local fast big time machine drive, but still kind of a 
>>> waste.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 2/3/12 8:51 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>> Alex,
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not so sure you could not have your windows and Mac data backed up to 
>>>> the same location. Of course it would require a lot of trickery, but 
>>>> nothing is necessarily impossible. You could possibly pull it off with a 
>>>> well crafted APple script on the Mac side.
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I know, but since I primarily use Windows for now, I pay for my
>>>>> Windows carbonite subscription. As I understand it, even though the
>>>>> Mini is one computer, I would have to pay again to back up my mac os
>>>>> partition. Until I use the mac more and start leaving my files there,
>>>>> I will just use time machine to keep my apps and settings up to date.
>>>>> Ideally, there would be some magical place from which both mac and
>>>>> windows could read and to which they could write in perfect harmony,
>>>>> but the file system war seems to preclude any such dream from ever
>>>>> becoming a reality. Too bad, since I could just back up said magical
>>>>> land with carbonite and let local backups store the less critical
>>>>> settings and apps.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/3/12, agent086b<agent0...@bigpond.com>  wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I am sure you already know, you can use Carbonite on your Mac.
>>>>>> Max.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -------- Original Message  --------
>>>>>> Subject: Re: time machine?
>>>>>> From: Alex Hall<mehg...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:54:11 -0500
>>>>>>> Thanks for the responses. Regarding my last question:
>>>>>>> 1. You create a novel in Text Edit, saving it as a single document.
>>>>>>> 2. You back up your mac, which, of course, backs up your novel in the
>>>>>>> process. Let us say this was done on January 1.
>>>>>>> 3. You come back to the novel a week later, making extensive
>>>>>>> modifications. Unfortunately, your mac goes crazy and you restore from
>>>>>>> your January 1 backup.
>>>>>>> What happens to your novel? Do you retain the January 8 version, or is
>>>>>>> that overwritten with the January 1 version? I have Carbonite on
>>>>>>> Windows, but before I had that I tended to save to my hard drive and
>>>>>>> make backups every month or so. In the above example, then, I would
>>>>>>> not have backed up every itteration of the novel, and would probably
>>>>>>> have done a backup a few weeks later. The restore, then, would happen
>>>>>>> between my backups, so what would happen to the file in question? I
>>>>>>> hope that makes sense.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2/3/12, Scott Howell<scottn3...@gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>>>>>> Alex answers follow below:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 1. Will any external hard drive work?
>>>>>>>> ALex you may use any external drive you like. However, you should 
>>>>>>>> ensure
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> have of course sufficient capacity and in fact you may consider having 
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> drive that is at least twice the capacity of the drive you are backing
>>>>>>>> up.
>>>>>>>> THis is not a requirement, but a consideration.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 2. Do I need to format it in a special way? If so, can I make a
>>>>>>>>> partition on it to use for backups and leave the rest readable by
>>>>>>>>> Windows computers?
>>>>>>>> I do not recall whether it matters, but the TIme Machine utility takes
>>>>>>>> care
>>>>>>>> of this if I recall correctly. You could split the drive into multiple
>>>>>>>> partitions and choose where you want TIme Machine to place the backups.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 3. Is time machine fully accessible?
>>>>>>>> I have not had any problems using TIme Machine.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 4. Are time machine backups readable? That is, if I wanted a file off
>>>>>>>>> an old backup but did not want to restore the whole thing, could I
>>>>>>>>> just browse to that file and copy it like normal?
>>>>>>>> Yes.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 5. Is anything not backed up?
>>>>>>>> The only files that come to mind which are not backed up are those that
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> no impact on operation of your Mac. In other words these are files you 
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> not have direct access to and are only used by the current instance of
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> OS. So if you restored the entire machine or cloned the drive you would
>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>> want these files.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 6. If I had to restore, and I had newer files than in the backup, what
>>>>>>>>> happens? In other words, is there a way to restore only system folders
>>>>>>>>> so that files modified since the backup are not overwritten with older
>>>>>>>>> versions?
>>>>>>>> Interesting question since I'm not sure how this condition  would occur
>>>>>>>> really. I'm trying to invision a scenario  that might apply in this 
>>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> hth,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
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