Bless you, Ricardo!!!!!!! lol
Cheers,
Donna
On Jan 4, 2012, at 6:50 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:

> Hi Matthew,
> 
> although this doesn't bother me, I think your missing the point.  You really 
> can't compare stop interacting, pressing VO right arrow about 5 times, and 
> arrowing through a menu to do something to pressing command shift S.  Does 
> the first take long?  No.  But its much more to do, and its not very 
> intuitive when compared to how things use to be.  The real heart of the 
> matter is, there was absolutely no need to get rid of save as.  It has 
> absolutely no baring on auto save.  You don't take away things like that just 
> for the sake of change.  Especially when you replace it with a less efficient 
> way of performing the same task.  Its like having someone circle their block 
> 3 times before entering there home just because they changed the locks.  One 
> have nothing to do with the other but, your made to do more work when you 
> shouldn't have to.  
> 
> Ricardo Walker
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> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
> www.mobileaccess.org
> 
> On Jan 4, 2012, at 5:42 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
> 
>> Hi everyone.
>> Seems like a mountain is being made out of a mole hill here. The 
>> instructions given don't seem to be that difficult at all.
>> Stop interacting with the text area, VO left to versions menu button and 
>> activating it, find the duplicate option and activating it, and finally 
>> saving the document with a new name. I think it just seems like more time 
>> than it'll actually take really.
>> Just my thoughts,
>> Matthew Campbell.
>> On 2012-01-04, at 4:14 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you for this information. It's helpful, but is beyond tedius. I 
>>> wouldn't suppose Apple would consider restoring
>>> previous behavior? This versions thing is just too weird and cumbersome to 
>>> be practical. Command s and command shift s should
>>> still be available in my opinion. This is another reason why I still prefer 
>>> to use my PC over the mac for many tasks: while
>>> many things are technicly possible on the mac, it feels as though you have 
>>> to jump through hoops to accomplish them. I mean,
>>> your message and Ray's above it show at least 5 steps for either saving a 
>>> different version of a file or restoring 1. I'm
>>> sure that the process becomes second nature with practice, but it's just so 
>>> much more complicated than in wordpad or even
>>> full MS word on the PC. Just my opinion of course, but I certainly 
>>> appreciate you explaining how this whole procedure works
>>> under lion.
>>> Missy
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 4:05 PM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?
>>> 
>>> Yup.
>>> 
>>> I'm sorry Donna.  I didn't read your post first so I thought you hadn't 
>>> already saved the document.  This is true there is no
>>> save as  as we all know it but, here's what you do. stop interacting with 
>>> the scroll area in text edit and navigate over to
>>> the versions menu button.  In this menu choose duplicate.  Here you will be 
>>> able to rename or save the document in another
>>> format.
>>> 
>>> hth
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>> 
>>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Goodin, Donna wrote:
>>> 
>>>> One correction, Ricardo.  Command S saves a version.  It does not give you 
>>>> a Save As Dialog.  And, the document I'm talking
>>> about has already been saved, so I can't get to a Save As dialog by just 
>>> closing the window.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 3:42 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> all you have to do is press command S.  There is really no mystery to 
>>>>> this.  Also, if you press command w to close the
>>> window, you will be presented with the save as dialog if you haven't 
>>> already saved the document.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>>>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>>>>> www.mobileaccess.org
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 3:20 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'd love answers to this question as well. I had a document where I
>>>>>> somehow deleted everything, but figured it wasn't a problem because
>>>>>> I could just open a previous version. Well, I never did figure out
>>>>>> how to do that. Fortunately, the good version of the file was still
>>>>>> in dropbox and also on my PC, but this is 1 of the many reasons I
>>>>>> just can't get comfortable with word processing on the mac. I don't like 
>>>>>> or understand this save a version thing, and
>>> wish that textedit worked the way it did under Snow Leopard. I probably 
>>> wouldn't use it too much more than I do now, but I'd
>>> at least be willing to try if it behaved more logically.
>>>>>> Missy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Goodin, Donna
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 2:38 PM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Is there really not a Save As option in Text Edit?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have a situation wherein I use a certain file in different
>>>>>> situations.  I would like the option to open the basic file, modify
>>>>>> the content, and save it with a different filename.  This used to be
>>>>>> possible, but the only option I see now for saving documents is Save a 
>>>>>> Version, which uses the original filename.  Does
>>> anyone know if there's some way to open a Save As dialog in Text Edit?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On a related note, does anyone know if there's a way to view older
>>>>>> versions of a file, i.e. could I open a version of this file before the 
>>>>>> last time I saved a version?
>>>>>> TIA,
>>>>>> Donna
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