Hi,

all screen readers, on any machine slows things down.  Its just the nature of 
the beast.  As far as your mini goes, the lack of a monitor is definitely the 
cause of most of your sorrows.  If you hooked up a monitor, I think you would 
get much better performance.  If you don't want a monitor, a macbook air might 
have been a better fit for you than a mini.  Its just a fact of life for the 
Mac Mini and voiceover users at this time.  You need to have a monitor hooked 
up to have a stable experience.  This has been the case for years now, and I 
don't see Apple doing anything about it anytime soon.  I do think when you 
shared your experiences with your Mac earlier in the thread you should have 
specified you were using a Mac mini with no monitor.  I think not doing so was 
a little miss leading.

JMO.

Ricardo Walker
rwalker...@gmail.com
Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
www.mobileaccess.org

On Jan 3, 2012, at 11:36 PM, Alex Hall wrote:

> I find it interesting that you specify that Macs are faster when a
> screen reader is not involved. Do you mean that you find vo slows
> things down, or just that screen readers make for inaccurate
> comparisons? I always figured the extreme sluggishness of my mini was
> due to its lack of a monitor...
> 
> On 1/3/12, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> lol,
>> 
>> I think your sighted friend is on drugs.  :).  I find the Mac to be just as
>> fas and more often than not faster when doing tasks than windows when a
>> screen reader is not involved.  Man, You know how long it takes iTunes to
>> open on windows sometimes? smh.
>> 
>> Ricardo Walker
>> rwalker...@gmail.com
>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296
>> www.mobileaccess.org
>> 
>> On Jan 3, 2012, at 8:44 PM, Chuck wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks for the information. I do plan to use my PC and the Mac Mini in
>>> parallel until I get used to the Mac. I am familiar with voice over
>>> and zoom on the iPhone and iPad and I'm hoping that they translate as
>>> well to the Mac Mini.
>>> 
>>> I have a sighted friend who also says that the Mac is a little more
>>> sluggish than the PC. I don't do any gaming, 90% of my computer uses
>>> buying online, word processing, and web development
>>> 
>>> But having dealt with Zoom text for the last 15 years, I am totally
>>> frustrated with the program. I have to reboot it about five times
>>> every day in order to get the text smooting to work. And it no longer
>>> works with Internet Explorer nine. I'm sure that when they do finally
>>> fix it, they'll want another $150 for the update.
>>> Chuck
>>> 
>>> On Jan 3, 6:22 pm, "Missy Hoppe" <melis...@fuse.net> wrote:
>>>> Very well said. I've had my mac since may, and although I've recently
>>>> become far more fond of Itunes than my bank account is
>>>> comfortable with, I just don't use it for daily tasks. I just can't get
>>>> comfortable with any of the word processing options,
>>>> and since I've been using a PC for close to 25 years, I'm always going to
>>>> be more comfortable on a windows platform. One of
>>>> my favorite activities, especially while I'm unemployed, is playing
>>>> games, and while I'm thrilled that the RS games client
>>>> works on the mac, there aren't any other options. I'm still hoping for a
>>>> truly accessible mud client; if atlantis is
>>>> accessible, I sure haven't figured out how to make it speak
>>>> automatically.
>>>> My other major task is writing/editing a story I've been working on for
>>>> several years now. I just can't get comfortable
>>>> working on my files using the mac, so just keep using good old wordpad on
>>>> the PC.
>>>> Since it cost me so much money, I have chosen to use the mac for things
>>>> that either don't work or I don't want to mess with
>>>> on my PC: adium, skype, itunes, and a couple of other similar things that
>>>> I can't remember at the moment. I figure that the
>>>> mac is a lot easier to fix if something goes wrong, and that's definitely
>>>> something I'll give Apple credit for; you can
>>>> install the operating system without any sighted assistance, and with
>>>> carbon copy cloner and time machine, it's easy to
>>>> restore your machine on the off chance that something catastrophic
>>>> happens. Another thing that I really love about the mac is
>>>> Growl. It essensially reads things that happen in the system tray:
>>>> changes in dropbox files for example. That's 1 thing my PC
>>>> can't do, or if it can, I don't know how to set it up, so the mac is
>>>> really awesome in that respect.
>>>> With all that being said, however, while I certainly like my mac a lot
>>>> more than I did when I first bought it, to be
>>>> perfectly honest, there's still a rather big part of me that regrets the
>>>> purchase. I eventually hope to get bootcamp and/or
>>>> VM fusion up and running, but so far, that just hasn't happened.
>>>> I hope this makes at least a little sense and that it helps you in your
>>>> decision. Sadly, I can't comment on the large print
>>>> side of things, but I've become moderately comfortable with using
>>>> Voiceover. Good luck in whatever decision you make, and I
>>>> hope this helps you out at least a little.
>>>> Missy
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 8:01 PM
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Switching to a Mac from PC
>>>> 
>>>> I got a Mini after hearing nothing but great things about the Mac and
>>>> VoiceOver. I can honestly say that I regret the
>>>> decision. I never understood editing, my system seemed sluggish compared
>>>> to NVDA with Windows, and web browsing is slow on
>>>> the Mac when using vo. Also, a lot of what I do on the pc is audio
>>>> gaming, and not so much as a good, accessible version of
>>>> Solitaire is available on the Mac, let alone shooting, strategy, or other
>>>> intensively audio games.
>>>> I am still willing to admit that a good, long skype session with someone
>>>> who is an experienced Mac user may help me, but as
>>>> of right now I almost never boot into Mac, using the Windows half of my
>>>> dual-booting mini almost exclusively. If you do
>>>> switch, make sure to either set up bootcamp or a virtual machine so you
>>>> can run Windows, because I can pretty much promise
>>>> that you will still be using Windows for a while after you start playing
>>>> with the mac. Sorry to be so negative, but that's my
>>>> experience so far.
>>>> 
>>>> On 1/3/12, Red.Falcon <velocity.focu...@virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Chuck!
>>>>> Although I do not use windows and never have!
>>>>> I have seen posts about the zoom and one thing the Mac cannot do is
>>>>> change colours!
>>>>> So its black on white or vice vursor!
>>>>> hth Colin
>>>> 
>>>>> On 4 Jan 2012, at 00:05, Chuck wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello everyone,
>>>>>> I'm seriously considering switching to a Mac Mini from PC.
>>>>>> I intend to use both the zoom and voice over programs.
>>>>>> I am currently using a PC with Windows 7 and zoom text as my
>>>>>> magnification and reading software.
>>>>>> I would like to hear from those of you who have made the switch.
>>>>>> What pitfalls should I look for? Are there any trade-offs?
>>>>>> In your opinion after making the switch which is the better system?
>>>>>> Why?
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>> Chuck
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