we need to do something about this.

as a blind community, we need to team up with developers and get involved in 
tuning apps to work for us with screen readers like voiceover. otherwise 
developers, software designers and final production elements won't solve our 
needs.

remember, though we are not a huge community (some may say we are a minority) 
we are a majority, we have equal needs and rights to application access, so at 
the end of the day, we have to put our feet in the door to make ourselves heard 
and also make applications more integrated to modern requirements of both 
disabled and fully able users.

the other point is this, everyone in this world is disabled in one way or 
another. 

take care and a happy new year.

lew

On 31 Dec 2011, at 15:06, Emrah wrote:

> Hi there,
> 
> In my case, Open Office lost quite a bit of accessibility with VoiceOver in 
> Lion. Moving with the arrow keys inside a text document without using VO 
> cursor won't work, making it very unpractical to read long pieces of 
> documents.
> Pages is kind of alright. I used it until recently to work on letters, 
> contracts, term sheets and stuff… Anything beyond traditional text and basic 
> formatting was hard to access with VO.
> I am now experimenting Nisus Writer Pro. Although listed by Apple as being an 
> accessible software, the one feature of accessibility I was looking for is 
> not there yet.
> I am referring to the accessibility of tables, which in both Pages and Nisus 
> Writer Pro, are not accessible. I did not try Writer in Open Office.
> 
> Good luck,
> E
> On Dec 31, 2011, at 9:23 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote:
> 
>> you are correct that MS Office for mac is not accessible.
>> 
>> there are some decent alternatives, although they all have some 
>> accessibility flaws we all get a bit fed up with.
>> 
>> what's available?
>> 
>> Nisus writer pro. worth checking out if you're in need of a word processor.
>> Iwork 09. a decent office suite containing pages, numbers and keynote. a 
>> pretty reliable package I find, though there are some issues with navigation 
>> now and again as well as certain known voiceover omissions.
>> OPEN OFFICE 3.3 is a reasonable office kit. fairly accessible but has a few 
>> bugs to it, if you want to become a member of the developer team and give 
>> accessibility feedback, etc it's worth the time.
>> there's probably a few others there which I've no doubt missed.
>> 
>> lew
>> 
>> On 30 Dec 2011, at 23:15, Shanna Stichler wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello everyone,
>>> 
>>> I find myself in need of software similar to MS Office, which I am quite 
>>> familiar with in Windows. However, I understand the Mac version is not 
>>> accessible. Is that correct? If it is, what alternatives can you all 
>>> recommend? I'd like to know for sure that what I purchase will actually 
>>> work for me. Thanks so much for any advice.
>>> 
>>> Shanna
>>> 
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>> Mr. L. Alexander.
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