Like I said, it worked fine when I did a reinstall, until I did the Apple
software update, at which time it started again.

 

 

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[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 4:16 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone want to help confirm a bug?

 

Bill, this actually does sound really familiar. You say you have been
working with Apple? If so, I will conduct another test and circle back to
you. I think this is what I was seeing yesterday, but was attributing it to
something else.

 

On Nov 27, 2011, at 2:11 PM, Bill Holton wrote:





Hi.

Actually, it's not a problem using Disk Utility.  What I was explaining was
that after I use DU to re-partition and format a drive I can't access it
using Finder.  Ironically, I learned last night that if I use the go to menu
to go to the computer and then open the drive from that list it opens fine.
If I close the drive, move to finder and try to open it from my desktop it
won't open.  Nor will it open from any file menu box.  Finder starts saying
busy, and it will continue to say busy for 8 hours, which is the longest I
have let things run.  The fan starts running hot and doesn't stop until I
turn off VO, still can't access the drive when I turn VO back on, Finder
crashes and won't let me force quit, have to restart the Mini. Command
Option Escape will supposedly restart it, but all VO sees is a blank screen.

I have checked the activity monitor while this is happening.  Finder stays
at a low menmory useage, but VO goes up to 360%--mine is a quad core.

And it's not just USB drives.  When I reformatted one of the mini's two
internal drives I couldn't access that one, either, until after I had used
the right click menu to copy a file onto the drive.

Last night I reinstalled Lion.  Everything worked fine, until I did a
software update, then it started happening just as before.  So the problem
seems to be in one of the software updates. 

I have a server edition of the Mini, which may be the specific Mac or mac
software update this is a problem on.

Any further thoughts and suggestions welcome.

Bill

 

 

From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. L. Alexander
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 6:23 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Anyone want to help confirm a bug?

 

The reason Voiceover goes a little crazy is two fold.

 

firstly, disk utility is rather intense when it comes to disk management as
it's handling your SATA buses as well as USB and Firewire handling. When you
format an external drive as an example, your USB or firewire BUS is taken
over with that particular instruction, so the CPU is taking up some
resources to manage that process.

 

as regards voiceover, Sometimes the speech synthesis server has a bit of a
wobble. May I ask what version OS you are using at this point? if it's 10.7,
there are a few niggles to be aware of. 10.6, I've noticed a few things but
nothing that restarting voiceover won't harm.

 

I use an external disk destroyer suite / diagnostic interface for managing
drives including partitioning, volume testing, data destruction and disk
aging and it's linked via USB so I can either use it standalone or VIA USB /
firewire with disk utility where needed.

 

just to let you know, don't worry, just quit voiceover and reload it. no
problem.

 

lew

 

On 27 Nov 2011, at 11:16, Scott Howell wrote:






Hi BIll,

 

 

So, just to confirm, if you attach an external USB drive, partition/format
the drive, and then attempt to access it VO will go busy? I have been having
some interesting drive issues myself, but not sure if this is related to
what you are experiencing. I'm more than happy to subject a drive to the
experiment. :)

 

Scot

 

On Nov 26, 2011, at 11:34 PM, Bill Holton wrote:






Hi.

Does anyone have an extra USB drive they can afford to reformat for a little
experiment to see if you get the same problem I do?

Here's the situation.

A few weeks ago I started having trouble with my Time Machine backup.  So I
figured I would just go ahead and repartition it-it's a two-tarabyte drive,
format it and go from there.  Did this,formatted with Mac Extended
journaling, but when I tried to open the drive Finder kept hanging and
reporting busy, busy, busy..  Eventually the fan would come on, the only way
I could stop it was to restart the Mac.This error has been driving me and
the folks at Appple nuts.  First they thought it was a bad USB drive,
happens on all three of my drives.  And if I turn off VO and let my wife
have a crack at it she can get to the drive easily.  Turn back on VO, try to
acces the drive, Busy.  Busy.  Busy.

Strangely, if I copy a file from one of my folders and use the right click
to copy that file to the drive it copies fine, and from that point on I can
access the drive-I'm just not convinced this is a long term solution, and
eventually I will start having more Time machine problems.

So today I bit the bullet and reformatted the drive.  Everything worked
fine.until I tried using iTunes.  iTunes required a software update, and so
the Mac took the opportunity to update all of my OS files as well.  As you
have probably guessed at this point, as soon as the system updates were
installed and the Mac restarted I was back to the same old problems.

I don't have a second mac to try this one, but is anyone else having trouble
accessing freshly partitioned drives via Finder?

Any help much, much appreciated.

Bill

 

 

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