I try that and it goes to mission control and then something else that starts 
with an A.  Am I doing something wrong?
Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
On Nov 11, 2011, at 11:03 AM, Hai Nguyen Ly wrote:

> Jennifer,
> Just start typing in mail when you are in the dock and press enter when you 
> hear VoiceOver say "Mail".
> 
> On Nov 11, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
> 
>> When I go to the doc from lion I press M for mail and get mission control 
>> (Whatever that is), and then press A hoping it will go to mail.  That 
>> doesn't work.  How can I get to mail quicker than just arrowing to it.
>> 
>> Thanks for your help.
>> 
>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>> On Nov 9, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Eric Oyen wrote:
>> 
>>> Karon,
>>> 
>>> I have found that most PDF files are not readable using voiceover in OS X. 
>>> this doesn't mean all of them are inaccessible, but it appears that a vast 
>>> majority are imported graphic files in a container.
>>> 
>>> as for captchas, I find them nearly impossible to solve, and some sites 
>>> that have audio captchas, the audio will not play under safari and some 
>>> others are severely distorted. couple this with the fact that mozilla 
>>> firefox isn't accessible using voiceover, that certain captcha solving 
>>> plugins are also inaccessible (and no such plugins are available for safari 
>>> that I know of). since I am not a windows user, nor do I wish to spend 
>>> large sums of money to do so, I am not inclined to use microsoft based 
>>> products. This means that I am also limited in how I do some things on the 
>>> net (especially where visually based security is concerned.
>>> 
>>> -eric 
>>> On Nov 8, 2011, at 4:57 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>> For reasons that are complicated to explain I have the ear of the legal 
>>>> department at paypal -ebay.  Part of the reason is that, as some of you 
>>>> may know, they are *requiring* all users to agree that that they read pdf 
>>>> files, or they will lose their account.  Because of this and some other 
>>>> access issues with paypal and ebay, i have been asked to document why 
>>>> things like pdf and captcha are issues for those using adaptive tools.  I 
>>>> have told them already that to assume everyone is using jaws is 
>>>> impractical, and that still browsers like lynx, with its recent edition  
>>>> dated June 2011, are good foundations for access.  I have shared that pdf 
>>>> reaains a hurtle, and captcha is flat out an issue, as is stuff like flash.
>>>> because they are serious though I want to make maximum use of this 
>>>> opportunity.  What I would welcome is article information, places that 
>>>> discuss why pdf for example and captcha remain barriers.  Likewise posts 
>>>> from you if you have met with issues with either service would be welcome. 
>>>> I want them to fix this for everyone, not just sweep me under the 
>>>> corporate rug.  That they are shifting all document responsibility t the 
>>>> end user is disturbing, since if you have an issue say with security, you 
>>>> will bare the blame for any discrepancies in documentation.
>>>> 
>>>> Additionally, if part of your professional life is access, share under 
>>>> your professional umbrella.  If I get enough research responses, i will 
>>>> construct a solid document for them, and include as many other people as I 
>>>> can.
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>> Karen
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