Hey, one simple question here. Have they fixed the item chooser, if
not anything else, in Safari? I refuse to upgrade if they still
haven't fixed that. Really, on my Mac, Safari is almost unusable, even
after repairing permitions, and this is from a clean install.

On 10/15/11, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote:
> Ah, so, if I use the recovery partition in that way and click on "install"
> will that count as a truly clean install?  I assume, then, that it would be
> in my best interest to physically disconnect my time machine backup drive
> prior to doing this  knowing that I can easily recover all my apps and
> settings there from after installation is complete?
>
>
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>
> Facebook:
> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>
>
>
> On Oct 14, 2011, at 8:22 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>
>> Ray, you can always download the Lion installation file if you must. You
>> can do that at the Mac app store.
>> However, in this case you don't need to. Just hold command + r when you
>> start your mac and you will boot from the recovery partition. Then turn
>> voice over on, and you will be good to go from there.
>>
>> Nektarios.
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>
>>> Could be right.  However, I no longer have the Lion install file.  Can I
>>> assume that I can get it back?
>>>
>>> OF course, I do have that disk thingie that let's you put lion on to a
>>> USB drive and do the clean install from there.  Recovery disk I believe
>>> it's called.  Anybody did a clean install off that/  IF so, how did it
>>> go; and, was it just the same as doing it off the DVD?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sincerely,
>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>
>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>
>>> Skype name:
>>> barefootedray
>>>
>>> Facebook:
>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 14, 2011, at 7:28 AM, Nektarios Mallas wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hay, I think that you are on for a clean install my friend.
>>>> It will solve many of your problems, including faster boot times.
>>>>
>>>> Nektarios.
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:34 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I could be sarchastic and reply, "how the hell would I know?", but no.
>>>>> I aint gonna do that.  the simple fact of the matter is that it
>>>>> happened, and, know what else?  This is the first time that happened
>>>>> ever.  Also, as an asside, I noticed that under 10.6, my Mac would
>>>>> start up and be fully usable in about 30 seconds or so.  Now, it takes
>>>>> one minute and thirty seconds.  Safari does, at least for now, appear
>>>>> somewhat more stable though.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>
>>>>> Facebook:
>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 13, 2011, at 1:22 PM, Bill Holton wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So exactly what kind of pictures are on your screensaver that causes
>>>>>> the Mac to catch such a fever?  <grin>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:19 PM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, let me tell all y'all the real weird thing that just happened to
>>>>>> me.  I padded in here to use my Mac to check my e-mail; and, when I
>>>>>> pressed the control key to bring my machine out of screen saver, I got
>>>>>> "Screen saver busy" over and over and my fan went hyper on me.  I had
>>>>>> to do a hard reset.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anybody else noticed that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Skype name:
>>>>>> barefootedray
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Facebook:
>>>>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 13, 2011, at 11:04 AM, David Eagle wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Voice Over not starting at start up? I'm not finding that on my
>>>>>> machine. It's always started up fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13/10/2011, Missy Hoppe <melis...@fuse.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Um.. I don't know how that song got attached to my previous post. Am
>>>>>> very,
>>>>>> very confused. If it went through, and you like
>>>>>> it, I guess that's OK, but I didn't attach anything deliberately. I
>>>>>> wonder
>>>>>> if my computer is possessed! I'm tripple checking
>>>>>> this message, and there definitely are not any attachments at the time
>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>> hitting send. If another one goes through, then I
>>>>>> guess I've got problems I need to investigate once I've had sleep.
>>>>>> Anyway,
>>>>>> sorry for any confusion; I'm definitely not trying
>>>>>> to cause any problems, and even without the song, I stand by my
>>>>>> comments
>>>>>> about lion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 2:31 AM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: RE: Lion 10.72 is now available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree. I think the com.apple.doc.extra thing may have been resolved,
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> VO running at start-up seems to be hit or miss
>>>>>> now, and I certainly can't find any other improvements that make me
>>>>>> want to
>>>>>> officially switch to Lion. I also noticed that
>>>>>> Pianopub still isn't read accurately under lion while it reads great
>>>>>> in snow
>>>>>> leopard. In fact, the only thing I like better
>>>>>> in lion than snow leopard is the way skype contacts are read. I have
>>>>>> no clue
>>>>>> what the difference is; so far as I can tell,
>>>>>> I'm running the same version of skype under both operating systems,
>>>>>> but it
>>>>>> just reads slightly better under lion; none of
>>>>>> those favorites checkboxes and stuff. Apart from that, though, I still
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> absolutely no desire to run lion, and will
>>>>>> continue using Snow Leopard as long as it works and meets my needs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Krasniuk
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:57 PM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Lion 10.72 is now available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah, it still seems like they're sidestepping a lot of the issues
>>>>>> that VO
>>>>>> has, such as the freaky pitch changes with the
>>>>>> Nuance voices and the annoying "Safari busy" messages are still there
>>>>>> too
>>>>>> when doing easy tasks like reading forum posts in
>>>>>> Samnet and such. Speaking of Samnet, I know this is OT but, has
>>>>>> anybody with
>>>>>> Samnet accounts tried using the socializer with
>>>>>> Chrome? I'm thinking of giving Chrome another chance and I'm not too
>>>>>> happy
>>>>>> that I can't change my screen name with Safari.
>>>>>> And I say another chance because last time I used Chrome it was
>>>>>> completely
>>>>>> inaccessible. Since this is off topic, just write
>>>>>> me off list about it please and thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shawn
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