Hi, Erik. I think Bell, Rogers, Telus, and Virgin are all offering the 6 GB for $30 plan, though don't quote me on their all offering it, it may only be Rogers/Telus. In any case, the plan does exist on the 850/1900 band which the iPhone supports. Obviously, if you're willing to dump the iPhone and go to one of the AWS providers, you will get allot more for less. Aman
On 9/28/11, erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote: > Hi Aman, Interesting about the data plans. The last I saw, which was 6 or > 8 months ago, it was in the 15 to 25 dollar range for 100 to 500 megabytes. > $25 to $40 for a 1 gb plan. I could almost justify $25 for a 5 gb plan > although I'd have to get a better phone. My current smart phone was cheep > and it acts cheep, smiles. > > Best, > > Erik Burggraaf > This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion When > will it be supported? Ebony Consulting at accessibility Unconference > Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit: > http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.com > Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 > or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com > > On 2011-09-28, at 9:04 AM, Aman Singer wrote: > >> Hi, all. >> I, like Erik, carry around a dedicated MP3 player, but see the merit >> of both that approach and the use of the iPhone. My views may be summed up >> as "whatever works best". Having said that, there are a few things in >> Erik's >> message below which aren't disadvantages of the iOS method. >> When asked about whether the dedicated player can >> Purchase music and download it wirelessly? >> Erik writes >> No I have to handle music and podcasts on computer before they go to the >> player, but I refuse to invest in a DRM and so apple store mp3's and >> audible >> books are no interest to me. >> >> Music from the Apple store has, to the best of my knowledge, no DRM >> at all or very minimal DRM. One certainly does not have to authorize >> devices >> for it. Books from the Apple Store and from Audible do have DRM, however. >> This is the main reason I don't buy books from the Apple store or Audible >> content. If I buy something in accordance with a specific license >> agreement, >> it's mine to use in accordance with that license. The fact that the >> provider >> of the content thinks people will violate the license really isn't my >> problem. >> Erik, when asked about online streaming of radio stations, says >> This is a feature I could actually use if my player had it. Unfortunately >> wifi access is still pretty limited here and there's no way even if I had >> a >> data plan, that I could afford to put my ISP to the kind of usage I'd be >> looking at. My mp3 player listening time is about 80 to 120 hours a month >> and if even 20 or 30 were using streaming audio I'd shortly run into >> problems. >> >> I used to be of this opinion as well. However, listening to a 256 K >> stream for an hour takes about 113 megabytes. Most radio stations stream >> in >> a lesser quality than that. Given that most providers in Canada at least >> offer something around 5-6 gigabytes for $30, streaming radio stations for >> a >> significant amount of time is not impossible to do. >> Finally, Erik writes >> I'd appreciate some links to resources on how to play ogg or flac on IOS >> if >> you have them. >> >> There are several options. You may want to have a look at >> http://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/oplayer/id344784375?mt=8 >> for example. There are other apps, both official and from Cydia, >> which will do the same. I don't read audio books very much, but agree with >> Erik that the iPhone's handling of those books is quite bad. >> Aman >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf >> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:12 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Money reader in canadian app store >> >> >> On 2011-09-27, at 8:08 PM, Marc Workman wrote: >> >> >> Well, we could have a feature off. >> >> Does the mp3 player have a search feature allowing you to search >> through thousands of songs? >> >> No, but it does allow you more control over the layout of your music when >> you put it on the device and it does allow for much faster scrolling than >> IOS. It's a bit of a trade off. I don't have a search feature, but I >> don't >> miss it because I know where stuff is and I can get to it quickly. >> >> >> Create and edit playlists on the device? >> >> Yep it does that. >> >> >> Purchase music and download it wirelessly? >> >> No I have to handle music and podcasts on computer before they go to the >> player, but I refuse to invest in a DRM and so apple store mp3's and >> audible >> books are no interest to me. >> >> >> Download audible books and podcasts wirelessly? >> >> Again, DRM no thanks. Not when I can get the same content in better >> quality >> from other sources. >> >> >> Have access to 15,000 internet radio streams? >> >> This is a feature I could actually use if my player had it. Unfortunately >> wifi access is still pretty limited here and there's no way even if I had >> a >> data plan, that I could afford to put my ISP to the kind of usage I'd be >> looking at. My mp3 player listening time is about 80 to 120 hours a month >> and if even 20 or 30 were using streaming audio I'd shortly run into >> problems. >> >> >> Provide you with music recognition? >> >> You mean like genus? What a ridiculous feature. Don't you know what's in >> your music collection? That and the whole social network they are trying >> to >> build around what's on your IPod. Are people really going for this? You >> gota be kidding me. >> >> >> This is of course scratching the surface, and some of what you >> mentioned, mp3 audio books, ogg and flac, the iPhone will do. >> >> >> Fraid not. If I put an mp3 audiobook onto my ITouch it goes into my music >> and then I have to playlist it separately at the very least. Plus I can't >> have bookmarking in an mp3 audiobook. If I want that I have to make it an >> m4B or whatever that proprietary format is. I'd appreciate some links to >> resources on how to play ogg or flac on IOS if you have them. I can make >> it >> work on the mac, but not on the ITouch. >> >> >> An mp3 player blowing the iPhone out of the water on feature sets, >> quality, and ease of use seems like less of a "no brainer" than you >> suggest. >> Well it's my brain, and I choose not to hassel it over less than >> half the battery life and a lot of features I just don't want when >> everything I do want is in a low cost extra built to do the job. >> But this is really beside the point. The initial discussion was >> sparked by your comment: >> >> >> It's ten bucks for a money reader? >> Why not just get a bank of canada one for free? >> >> >> >> If you still don't see why someone would pay the ten bucks, I'm >> probably not going to change your mind. >> >> If I suggested that the iPhone competes feature for feature with >> things like GPS units, mp3 players, cameras, etc, I didn't intend to. The >> point is that, where an app allows you to accomplish what you would >> normally >> accomplish with a stand-alone device, then being willing to pay a small >> amount of money for the app even when the device is free doesn't seem that >> strange to me. >> I think it's a matter of whether you need the feature set or not. >> If looktel does UK currency when I go back to bellfast next year I won't >> think twice about 10 bucks for the app. But since I'm moldering away at >> home and the free reader does all that I need it to , and it's sitting >> right >> here in my living room, I don't see how I can justify the expense. >> Cheers, >> >> Marc >> >> On 2011-09-27, at 1:49 PM, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >> >> Well, the MP3 player is a bit of a no brainer. It's cheep, >> less than a hundred bucks. I get 30 hours of listening on a single charge >> which is important for me since I'm often on the road for 12 hour days. >> It >> plays ogg which is not so important to me, but it also plays flac which is >> crucial. It will let me use SD cards without buying an expensive and >> proprietary adapter. it bookmarks up to 10 folders for me on the fly and >> can bookmark up to 10 places in each folder. It lets me control settings >> like bass, trebble, and gain and it has a limiter preamp and a host of >> other >> settings which I can use to improve the listening experience for various >> types of audio. It has a fully adjustable crossfader, All features are >> fully self-voicing. I can play audiobooks in standard MP3, and I can copy >> and paste files with no benighted piece of bloatware to hoof music and >> books from computer to player and back. >> >> The camera I use is ridiculously expensive and there are >> lots of things to love or love to hate about it. On the love side, it's >> on >> a monopod so I don't have to worry about holding the camera straight or at >> the appropriate height. It auto focusses so I don't have to worry about >> not >> lining up the shot properly. It has a provision for automatically taking >> multiple pictures for cases such as scanning books, and it has a motion >> sensor to take the new picture when I flip a page. It gives me easy >> access >> to both the image file and the converted OCR and I can convert to mp3 on >> the >> fly if I want. >> >> Barcode reader $300 bucks it's omny directional so I don't >> have to know where to point. It comes with several databases onboard. >> Need >> I go on? >> >> it sucks to pay a lot of money for stuff that the IPhone >> sorta does for free or very cheep, but honestly it's not really there yet >> and I need technology that works. I just don't have the patience anymore >> to >> mess around and force things into line, although I'm very happy for the >> people who have persevered and gotten some things to work well for them. >> >> Best, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. >> Mac OS Lion When will it be supported? Ebony Consulting at accessibility >> Unconference Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit: >> >> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.c >> om >> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >> <http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/> >> >> On 2011-09-27, at 3:27 PM, Marc Workman wrote: >> >> >> I'm curious how your stand alone mp3 player and >> camera blow the iPhone's "out of the water" in terms of feature sets, >> quality, and ease of use. >> >> It sounds like you agree, though, that where the >> equivalent functionality can be gotten out of an app, the app would be >> preferable to the stand-alone device. Is there something the stand-alone >> money reader does that the app doesn't? I think it's actually the other >> way >> around given the variety of currencies that can be identified. >> >> I think I would prefer fewer stand-alone devices >> even at home. It's not just about carrying them, but losing and >> recharging. >> My phone also always tends to be on hand. There's obviously a risk to the >> swiss-army-knife approach, eggs, basket, etc, but I do think there are >> good >> reasons for preferring the money reader app over the free stand-alone >> device, and so I'm glad the developer listened to my and others' calls for >> including Canadian currency rather than thinking it unnecessary, like some >> may have implied, given the free stand-alone device. >> >> Regards, >> >> Marc >> On 2011-09-27, at 11:57 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >> >> The problem with my separate mp3 player, >> gps, camera OCR, and so on is that they all blow the eyephone out of the >> water when it comes to feature sets, quality, and ease of use. So, while >> I >> feel like a dope walking around with my pockets stuffed and bulging with >> with kit, not to mention paying for each tool A la Cart, the fact is I'm >> more comfortable with the separate tools than the IPhone. Now, if the >> tools >> on the IPhone do what you need and your requirements aren't that steep, >> there's nothing at all wrong with buying an IPhone and letting fly. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't usually bother carrying the money >> reader. If I don't know what my bills are, I sort them before I leave the >> house. Anything else can usually be taken care of using the markers on >> the >> money. >> >> Best, >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> This month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps >> systems for demo. Mac OS Lion When will it be supported? Ebony Consulting >> at accessibility Unconference Toronto. To read more and subscribe, Visit: >> >> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.c >> om >> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >> or on the web at >> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com <http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/> >> >> On 2011-09-27, at 11:21 AM, Marc Workman >> wrote: >> >> >> Agree with Ricardo. >> >> Why not carry a separate daisy >> player, mp3 player, colour identifier, light detector, gps unit, money >> identifier, camera, etc. Even if these were all available for free, I >> would >> rather pay a relatively small fee to have them all available on a single >> device. >> >> It's also worth noting that Looktel >> announced that the price was going up for version 2. So many Canadians, >> myself included, were able to pick it up at the version 1 price of either >> 1.99 or 2.99, I can't recall exactly. Ten dollars is a bit steep, but I >> thought that the initial price was less than people would be willing to >> pay, >> and I would still encourage canadians to pick it up, assuming it >> identifies >> our currency as well as it did the US's. >> >> Regards, >> >> Marc >> On 2011-09-27, at 5:57 AM, Ricardo >> Walker wrote: >> >> >> >> Another advantage is is its >> 1 less thing to carry. A person is more likely to forget their money >> reader >> at home than their phone I would think. >> >> >> >> Ricardo Walker >> >> >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> >> >> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >> >> >> www.mobileaccess.org >> <http://www.mobileaccess.org/> >> >> >> >> On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:44 AM, >> erik burggraaf wrote: >> >> >> >> That we do, Have >> for over 15 years. Our government had certain accessibility standards >> back >> as early as 1990. Not that all of them were worth the paper they were >> printed on, but the money identification one has been taken very seriously >> by bank of canada. The old gadget they put out first was a bit lame but >> the >> new one is super. I Told gary at looktel that we already had a free piece >> that covered all the bases, but as you say, for some one travelling either >> two or from canada the IPhone app is quite useful. >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> >> >> This month in Ebony >> Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion When will it be >> supported? >> Ebony Consulting at accessibility Unconference Toronto. To read more and >> subscribe, Visit: >> >> >> >> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/mailman/listinfo/ebony-promos_erik-burggraaf.c >> om >> >> >> Ebony Consulting >> toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >> >> >> or on the web at >> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com <http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/> >> >> >> >> On 2011-09-27, at >> 8:25 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >> >> >> IDK, >> >> >> >> What if you >> do some traveling? BTW, you guys hand out money readers for free? >> >> >> >> Ricardo >> Walker >> >> >> >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> >> >> Twitter & >> Skype: rwalker296 >> >> >> >> www.mobileaccess.org <http://www.mobileaccess.org/> >> >> >> >> On Sep 27, >> 2011, at 8:24 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >> >> >> It's >> ten bucks for a money reader? Why not just get a bank of canada one for >> free? >> >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> >> >> Erik >> Burggraaf >> >> >> This >> month in Ebony Promos: Two new gps systems for demo. Mac OS Lion When will >> it be supported? 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I don't want to spend $10 on it if its the wrong >> one. 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