Appreciate the response, Ray. It could be the same update that you installed a few days ago. I only noticed the software update window this morning, but it could have been released a while ago.
I appreciate you sharing your method for reading messages, and I might end up having to use it, but there are several ways in which it is less efficient than the one I was using up until this morning. First, rather than having to jump back and forth with VO J to read each message, the method I used only required a press of the VO down or up arrows to read each message, one keystroke, VO down arrow, as opposed to three, down arrow followed by VO J to read the message and VO J again to jump back. Also, once done with the conversation, I only had to press shift tab and delete to get rid of the entire conversation. I could do this from anywhere in the conversation. No searching for the beginning of the conversation to first close it and then press delete. I should restate, it is still possible to tab on a conversation and VO down arrow through the conversation. The problem is that I no longer know who sent each message as I land on it. There's one other difference that relates to what Ray said. VO J is no longer working to jump me into the message content. I used to use this to read messages that weren't part of conversations. Now, if I hit VO J on a message, I'm brought into the mailbox table, a second VO J brings me back to the messages table, and continual VO J presses cycles me back and forth between these two. Since VO J still works for Ray, I assume this has something to do with my configuration, but if others could confirm, I'd appreciate it. Cheers, Marc On 2011-09-15, at 8:48 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > Well Mark, I did install a security update a few days ago. Could that be the > one to which you are referring? As for slugishness, I am noticing that, when > I reply to certain messages, I too get slugish typing response and over the > keyboard generally. This is not happening right now as I reply to your > message. > As for the conversation view, what I normally do is when I run across a 5 > message conversation or so, I just use the right arrow to open up that > conversation and arrow down to the first message in that conversation. then, > if I want to read it, I just use VO+j to interact with the text area of the > message. When done, I just back out again using VO+j. That brings me to the > list of messages in the conversation. When I've had enough of the > conversation, I just go all the way to the top of it, close it with left > arrow and delete it. Makes it much faster for me that way. > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! > > Skype name: > barefootedray > > Facebook: > facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 > > > > On Sep 15, 2011, at 10:43 AM, Marc Workman wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I installed a security update through software update this morning, and it >> seems to have resulted in some changes to Mail, changes I'm not particularly >> happy with. >> >> I wonder if others have installed the security update and are noticing >> similar changes. >> >> The issue has to do with the message content table. In the past, when I >> came across a conversation of, say, 9 messages that I wanted to read, I >> would simply hit tab in order to be taken into the message content table. I >> could then VO arrow down the messages, and I would hear who sent the message >> as well as the entire message itself. >> >> Now, if I do the same thing, I will sometimes hear who sent it, but I will >> often just hear the number it holds in the sequence of messages. If it's >> the third message, VO says 3 and then reads the message. I like to know who >> sent the message before reading it, rather than possibly discovering the >> source at the end, assuming that the person signed it at all. >> >> I've tried customizing the header information in preferences, but this has >> not solved the problem. >> >> It also seems that I am getting the busy message much more than usual, >> particularly in the message content table as I am VO arrowing up and down >> through the messages. Mail also unexpectedly shut down as I was composing >> this message. Mail is the only app running besides finder, so there is >> really no reason for the sluggish behaviour. >> >> Anyone else noticing this after installing the security update? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Marc >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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