Hi list: Here's an update to my situation.
Previously, I could not get VO to start after I booted up into Lion. Well, I got an old monitor, plugged it in, and, now, VO comes up just like it should. Don't know why this should make a difference, but, it does. One other note: Lion was not saving my keyboard preferences, but, now that I hooked a monitor up, Lion is now saving keyboard preferences, as well. So, for anyone else wanting to run headless, you might want to find an old monitor that no one wants. This one isn't even hooked up to electricity, but, it still seems to make a difference. Hope this helps. On 7/30/11, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote: > The comApple Extra thing still happens to me every single time I start my > Mac book Pro. Just a simple command+tab seems to get rid of that. > > Mostly, though, I just leave my Mac book Pro on so Time machine can do it's > thing. > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! > > Skype name: > barefootedray > > Facebook: > facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 > > > > On Jul 30, 2011, at 5:44 AM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > >> Hi! I don't know if the moniter will help or not. I got the >> com.apple.doc.extra thing on my macbook pro while I had Lion >> installed. I know it's a simple thing to get rid of, but it drove me >> bananas, and is 1 of the reasons I chose to go back to >> snow leopard for the time being. Lion always started talking >> automatically, eventually, but I was always stuck in that >> com.apple.doc.extra thing. I really, really hope that that problem gets >> fixed in a future lion release. Good luck, and I hope >> you're able to get it working. >> Missy >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Norton >> Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 5:26 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Problem with VoiceOver not starting in Lion >> >> Hi: >> >> You're right. VoiceOver is supposed to start once it's run, as long >> as it's not turned off. >> >> This was its behavior in Snow Leopard, regardless of the presence or >> absence of a monitor. >> >> However, they must have changed something in Lion that keeps this from >> happening. >> >> Here's another thing to note. >> >> When I press Command-f5, VO starts and I hear something like >> "comm.apple.dock.extra". >> >> Wonder if this has anything to do with this. >> >> I will try to get an old monitor of mine to see if having the hardware >> present helps. I believe it will. >> >> On 7/30/11, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Running without a display gives unpredictable and unreliable results, >>> especially with Safari. Once you start VO from within your account, it >>> should start up automatically when you log back in. You can leave it >>> running >>> when you exit your account. If you shut it down before you log out and >>> don't >>> restart it, it won't come back automatically when you log in. >>> >>> HTH, >>> Teresa >>> On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Joseph Norton wrote: >>> >>>> Hi: >>>> >>>> Just upgraded to Lion and everything works satisfactorily, except that, >>>> when I boot up, VO does not automatically come up after log in. >>>> >>>> VO works fine in the Login screen, but, won't automatically come on >>>> after >>>> login. >>>> >>>> I believe the problem may be that I am running without a display, since >>>> I'm using a Mac Mini and this has worked ok, for the most part. >>>> >>>> If there are any Mac Mini lion users out there, could you try booting up >>>> without your display plugged in and see if VO comes up? If it doesn't, >>>> you should be able to hit cmd-f5 to get it to come up. >>>> >>>> It's not enough to turn the monitor off, it needs to be disconnected to >>>> duplicate the conditions I'm working under. >>>> >>>> If this happens, can any of you suggest a work-around? I can get an old >>>> monitor and physically connect it. It doesn't work, but, should >>>> provide >>>> the hardware functionality needed to correct this problem, if that's >>>> what >>>> it is. >>>> >>>> It's not a big deal, although I'm going to write to the accessibility >>>> team >>>> at Apple to see what their thoughts are. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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