Let me start by saying, I would honestly prefer for this thread to speak
more with individuals who either still use Windows either in Bootcamp, or
VMWare, or literally on a Windows Machine, or people who for most of their
computer days used Windows and only converted within say the past few years.
Having said that, I have a question for you all who fall in those
categories. Basically, here's the deal. I started using a Mac I think it
must have been back in 2007, if I'm not mistaking. Granted, it was a Tiger
machine. So, yeah... Leopard was out, but this system wouldn't support it.
From the very beginning, I was quite good at figuring voiceover out. Over
night, I listened to the Voiceover getting started tiger MP3 guides that
Apple made. They helped me immensely. Of course back then I was on Mac
Visionaries, believe it or not, but I later removed myself from the list,
because I just felt, I was so behind in technology, and I knew there was no
way that I ever could afford a newer Mac. Well, later I happened to come
across a cheap Power Mac G4 Quick Silver which at the time was running
Leopard. Not natively though. Whoever sold me the PC had hacked the
firmware and somehow managed to overclock the processor and got it to run.
Needless to say, that logicboard didn't last very long before it fried.
It's amazing what damage 60MHZ over can do. LOL! Anyway, so I really
didn't get a good full on up to date mac until this last April when Fr.
Steve got me my Macbook. I'd played with the lady's who cleans for me, and
her's was a late 2009 13inch white, so basically just like mine except
mine's the 13 white mid 2010. Anyway, both had Snowleopard when I got them
and no hacking or anything. That was natively what they came with. By the
time I got mine in April, I probably could have tought you voiceover and O S
X from ground up. I was, and still am, extremely proficient with the
system. Sometimes it amazes me that I get by as well as I do. Anyway, so
with the intro out of the way, the point is, I at this point, am really no
stranger to voiceopver and the Mac, in general.
So, here is the deal, even from the beginning in Tiger when I first started
out, all the way up until now, you give me E-mail, I'm great! Give me
ITunes, I'm excellent! Give me Skype, I'm really good. Give me Adium, I'm
excellent! So on so forth. Pretty much, I fly on the thing. Now, here's
the catch, you put me in Safari, and tell me to browse the web? Oh, I'm not
saying I can do it, nor will! do it, I certainly! will, but! it's very very
awquard. I don't know why, nothing else really works like Windows, yet I
get it fine. And it's not so much I don't know how to browse the web. It's
not even I'm unfamiliar with VO and Safari together. I know about my roter,
I know about my interacting with the html content if it doesn't do it for
me, which normally it does. I know about dom vs. group mode. I prefer dom
BTW. I know about my quick nav single keys in Lion, as well as all my
vo+commands like h, t, etc. I know about my vo+R to read the table row of a
table, I know about interacting with each frame individually if I get a page
with them, I know about the item chooser and the vo+F for find. I know
about setting up tab and option+tab to move among elements. So, I just,
don't, get it! What is it then that's making it so d*** difficult for me!
How can I get myself out of this birdy uncomfortable state? Oh sure, I know
one could say just get your feet wet, and use Safari to browse more than you
do Windows. I know, and I do try, believe me, I do. But even still, it
doesn't seem to be getting easier. My IPod/IPad/IPhone is fine. I can do
Safari on them fine. I don't normally as I find it a little more tedious,
but, I do feel totally comfortable doing it when I must. I know about track
pad commander, but even that! feels weird doing it on the Mac. So, how did
you all that have converted, or use both, how do you all deal with that void
where the fine line of awquardness in Safari needs to somehow be shattered?
I just am frustrated, as I get how to do it, and I get everything else. Why
when putting it in practice is it so hard for me?!
Any suggestions? Again, I'll take answers from anyone, but I'd really
prefer those who either use Windows as well, or have converted from Windows
who kind a had the same issue specifically with Safari. I'd like to know
how you all delt with it and got your heads around it.
I know we can set where my up and down arrows can jump me line by line.
That would make it work more like in Windows. I wonder if maybe that may
help. I'm not usually for using a crutch like that, but for now at least,
if it'll help... So, if we can do that, can you all teach me how to?
Thanks much. I sure do really appreciate it.
Chris.
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