Sorry just have to finish what I am saying.

I think it would be good if we
could all work together and build a fabulous list.

Kawal.
Sent from my iPhone

On 29 Jul 2011, at 08:15 AM, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, Mark,
> 
> Thanks for your positive words. I agree with you whole-heartedly on all the 
> points you've made.
> 
> Keep up the good work, Mark and everyone else who is responsible for making 
> this list the informative and empowering thing it is.
> 
> Be well,
> Teresa
> On Jul 28, 2011, at 11:41 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
> 
>> Hello Everyone,  
>> 
>> First, as Cara and I manage both the MacVisionaries and V iPhone lists, I am
>> cross-posting.
>> 
>> Second, allow me to extend a welcome to all the new list members.  
>> 
>> For the past couple of hours, I given a great deal of thought on how to
>> respond to some of the statements made on list, today.  Finally, it occurred
>> to me that to respond to the messages that have stirred up more than a few
>> flames would be the worst thing I could possibly do.  So, instead, I will
>> say the following:
>> 
>> 1.
>> Like it or not, as blind and low vision people, we share an existence that
>> binds us together in a very special way.  Some people treasure this bond and
>> some do not but regardless it is there.  I want you all to know that I value
>> this connection more than words can express.
>> 
>> 2.
>> I ask you all to keep in mind that despite the efforts of some list members,
>> neither the MacVisionaries nor the V iPhone lists exist merely to serve as a
>> database of questions and answers; if that is what you seek, then you would
>> be better serve by searching your nearest knowledge base.  In addition to
>> exchanging knowledge, This list is a place for us to fellowship in some
>> small way.  I want to make it clear that in no way am I condoning personal
>> chat-like posts but, from time-to-time, such posts will make their way to
>> the entire list.  When this happens, please be tolerant.    
>> 
>> 3.
>> We share a bond, Family, so it really doesn't matter to which list you
>> choose to subscribe for the information will eventually find its way to us
>> all.  I don't want anyone to leave the list for I sincerely think Cara has
>> cultivated something very unique and special here but if you think you can
>> build a better mousetrap then, by all means, build it and we will celebrate
>> you for in so doing, we celebrate ourselves as we are one community.  It's
>> really that simple.  There is no competition.  
>> 
>> 4.
>> A very special thanks to all of you who take the time to answer questions
>> and publish some of the best podcasts in the world.  I'm always excited when
>> someone posts a notice to the list describing his/her latest podcast which
>> is filled with useful information from which we all can benefit.  Thank you,
>> thank you, thank you.
>> 
>> 5.
>> It is not easy to manage large email lists for there will always be some who
>> choose to see only the shadows in a room filled with light. It is to these
>> list members that I say the following: Personal criticisms will no longer be
>> tolerated.  While I will not ban anyone from receiving information posted to
>> the list, if you lob personal attacks against any other list member or take
>> it upon yourself to moderate fellow members by criticizing their posts, I
>> will summarily revoke your posting privileges.  It's really that simple.  If
>> you have a problem which a list member, contact that person off-list.  If
>> you don't like something on the list, Contact Cara or me.  Just so you know,
>> I have already begun to implement this policy.  
>> 
>> 6.
>> To those who think that "no one is listening", I want you to know that,
>> because of the brilliant implementation of VoiceOver with the Mac mail
>> client and the iOS mail client, I either read or skim through virtually all
>> of the list messages.
>> 
>> 7.
>> To those of you who find yourselves being overwhelmed with posts from the
>> lists, I invite you to consider either switching to List Digest Mode or
>> explore your preferred mail client so that you can browse list messages more
>> efficiently.
>> 
>> 8.
>> I want you to know that I look forward to reading all your messages.  When
>> reading, I am amazed at how comforting it is to learn that I am not the only
>> one experiencing a particular problem or challenge on my Apple device or in
>> my Apple compatible software.  Some how, I feel less alone when reading your
>> experiences so please keep them coming.
>> 
>> 9.
>> As has been stated several times before, whenever there is a major operating
>> system release, list traffic will increase.  Please be tolerant of this and
>> know that more often than not, the increase is temporary.
>> 
>> 10.
>> We live in amazing times, Family; keep this in mind when you find yourself
>> becoming discouraged, irritated, or just plain bothered.  As blind and low
>> vision people, we enjoy access to the world in ways that no generation
>> before us could even imagine.
>> 
>> Be assured that the integrity of this list is intact and all is well.
>> 
>> I hope this message finds you happy, safe, and making a joyful noise.
>> 
>> Most Sincerely,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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