First of all, that guy's an idiot. The cheapest MBA runs for the same price
as the macbook. And yes, it has a microphone and camera. Also, each air
comes with a USB drive that contains your software for restore.


-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 9:41 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Apple may have done a number on themselves.

No optical drive, and not enough HD space are the two deal breakers for me. 
Plus the guy at my local Apple store said if the O S crashes I have to send
it in for repair, as with no optical drive there is no way to restore the O
S yourself.  When I pointed out a U S B  CD drive, he said in theory you'd
think that would work, but it won't boot frm a U S B CD drive.  He said even
going into open firmware and configuring things wouldn't do it.  Finally, he
said no microphone nor eyesite web cam, which for me is enough major
dealbreaker.

I dono if I trust the credibility of any of this, but if that all is true,
then, gag me with a spoon!  Not only this, but $700 less than a MBP?  this
guy told me that the two models of MBA's ran for $1200 each.

Again, I am not saying that I necessarily believe all of this, but if it's
true, then, ee, gacks!

Chris.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 9:59 AM
Subject: RE: Apple may have done a number on themselves.


> Hi Chris,
>
> You're right about them not selling the white MacBook as of the release of
> Lion. However, we don't know the reasons behind the decision, and they 
> could
> possibly come out with something that meets your needs. I'm confused,
> though, what makes the MacBook Air unimpressive in your eyes? It runs just
> as fast, if not faster than the MacBook Pros, for $700 less. The only 
> thing
> you don't get is a traditional hard drive, which will end up solving a lot
> of drive failure problems anyway since there are no physical read heads to
> be damaged. I admit, the amount of storage you get in the entry level 
> model
> is lesser than I'd want ideally, keep in mind the cost to manufacture 
> solid
> state storage is astronomical. You also don't get an optical drive, but
> that's only $79.99 as an add-on.
> As far as the Lion accessibility issues, give apple time to fix things. No
> dot 0 release is always perfect.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
> Gilland
> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 8:41 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple may have done a number on themselves.
>
> OK, I have a friend who has just informed me that Apple as of the release 
> of
> Lion is no longer making, nor selling refurbished or not, the white plain
> macbooks.  Now, all they're selling in the laptop style is either the two
> sizes of Macbook Airs, or if you want a full laptop, then the Eluminum
> Macbook Pro.  Not that this really per sey is a major issue for newcomers,
> except the price will obviously be more, which leads me to my question.
>
> What about people like myself?  I got my macbook back in April.  It's not 
> a
> Pro.  It's just a stocked white 13 inch.  So, God forbid that thing ever
> stops working during my year warranty, but hypotheticly, let's just say 
> that
> it did.  I'm not in the least impressed with the Macbook airs.  Not even 
> the
> 13 inch model.  It's just not at all compreble for what I need.  So, don't
> tell me I'd be either forced to get an air, seeing that they're at equal
> price, or pay more to get a Pro.  Why should we pay more for something 
> under
> warranty, and furthermore, more for a product replacing the one we already
> have.  It's not our falt that they decided to quit making a good product.
> What is Apple's deal lately!  First it's the accessibility bugs in Lion, 
> now
> this?  I hope my friend's assumption is incorrect, but he clamed he called
> Apple and asked them.
>
> Does anyone know?
>
> Chris.
>
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