Hi all. I have at last upgraded to Lion successfully and have gone into mail, selected classic view, unchecked the messages so I do not get recent at top. Then I've made them into conversation by thread so all my messages are displayed when I was using Snow Lepard, and I can open my messages as usual. Voice over reads them to me. I do delete eacn individual message and just enter on the next message and voice over reads them to me. I do not have a problem with this. I'm very happy thus far.
Kawal. On 23 Jul 2011, at 21:04, Shen wrote: > Hi Zack, > Thanks for that. I found it in Preferences under the View tab. It's so > strange you have a sort submenu under the View menu, bar and then here is > another checkbox for sorting messages in Preferences. > Although the wording for the checkbox is not very clear if it is meant for > messages inside a conversation. > > On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:53 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi Shen and all, >> The sorting of conversations can be toggled in Preferences, actually. Look >> at the bottom of the view tab for "Show Most Recent Message at the Top." >> Uncheck that and you'll get the old behavior. >> Best, >> Zack. >> On Jul 23, 2011, at 1:14 AM, Shen wrote: >> >>> There is still the question about sorting your messages. >>> If you sort your messages by date in 1 order, messages in conversations are >>> sorted in reverse. For example, if all your messages are sorted in >>> ascending order, expand a conversation and the messages in that >>> conversation are sorted in descending. >>> Personally, when I expand a conversation, I prefer to start from the first >>> message of the thread, not at the last. I prefer to read a conversation >>> from the beginning forward instead from from the end backward. >>> This was not the case in SL. Can't figure out why they decide to reverse it >>> inside a conversation. >>> Am I the only person that likes it the previous way? >>> >>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:17 PM, Marc Workman wrote: >>> >>>> Don't bother with a hot spot on the mailbox list. You can simply shift >>>> tab and tab to go back and forth between the mailbox list and the message >>>> table. >>>> >>>> I did end up setting a hot spot for the search field since, unlike in SL, >>>> you don't seem to be able to tab into the search field. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Marc >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Westbrook" <westbch...@gmail.com> >>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:46 PM >>>> Subject: Re: conversations in new mail >>>> >>>> >>>> No, I just tried it, it works in the regular view, with the caveat that >>>> you must use vo+up and down arrow to move through the messages when in the >>>> message content area. also if you set a hot spot on the mailbox list I >>>> think you can get there a lot quicker. >>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Shameless, >>>>> A small caveat here. THis seems to only really work in Classic view, but >>>>> is otherwise very sound advice. I appreciate it. >>>>> Best and thanks, >>>>> Zack. >>>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:37 PM, Shameless FanGirl wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You don't, and can in fact merely tab over once you're sitting on the >>>>>> thread you want to view. This will get you to a list of messages within >>>>>> that thread, from where you can either use left and right, or up and >>>>>> down arrows to navigate through them. To return to the threads list, >>>>>> either use VO left arrow, or shift tab. For the record, to return to the >>>>>> list of inboxes, stop interacting with the message list, (for me, this >>>>>> requires two presses of VO shift up arrow), and VO left twice to return >>>>>> to your list of mailboxes. >>>>>> >>>>>> I HTH guys >>>>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 10:31 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi CHris, >>>>>>> The area you mention is accessible if you don't expand a conversation, >>>>>>> but instead stop interacting and move right. I'm not sure what goes on >>>>>>> visually in conversation view, but it occurs to me you might not need >>>>>>> to expand them all that often actually. Experimentation is in order. >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Zack. >>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:24 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I just wanted to say I'm getting used to the new conversation view in >>>>>>>> mail. The way i do it now is to expand a conversation I'm interested >>>>>>>> in and then down arrow to the first message. Then I do a vo+j to go >>>>>>>> to the preview pane and then read the message, then I either delete it >>>>>>>> or do a vo+j again to go to the message list to select another >>>>>>>> message. My question is that it seems that if you're not focused on a >>>>>>>> message within the conversation, if you stop interacting with the >>>>>>>> message list and then vo+right arrow a couple of times the message >>>>>>>> content area displays all the messages in a conversation, one per >>>>>>>> line. I tried to set a hotspot there but I can't get to it from the >>>>>>>> message list. IS there a quick hot key to get to the area I am >>>>>>>> thinking of? 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