And in case anyone actually cares, this has nothing to do with vo or lion. The reason Jaws won't download on safari is that by default, freedom scientific offers direct ftp links to their downloads and safari apparently can't handle direct ftp links. If you REALLY want to download Jaws from a mac, FS offers a page for http downloads. Frankly, the whole item chooser thing really doesn't bother me much as the web roder has always worked for me and that is for the web. I am glad I upgraded, and I'm even getting used to the new mail. I think we all just need to calm down a bit. As far as apple not caring, just because they don't talk to us doesn't mean they don't care. They don't talk to anyone, it's as simple as that. Missy, I really hope you get your power situation straightened out, but I don't think that is a lion issue either. Calm down everyone. :) Chris Westbrook
On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > Hi guys. > Just to add a little to what Carolyn said, it's been two days since Lion came > out so don't expect these problems to just magically go away. > If they are making some of you guys that angry, switch back to SL. It can be > done easily enough if you have a recent backup. > Email off list please if you need help doing this seeing as this is starting > to become not VO related anymore. > Thanks and for those that need too, chill! > > On 2011-07-22, at 9:16 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Hi Chris: >> Do yourself and all of us a favor: >> Step away from the computer and chill for a while before writing a pointless >> rave like this. No one really needs to hear it. >> >> >> On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >> >>> Not exactly that anyone would really want! to download this, but, why in >>> the heck is it, that if I go to either >>> >>> http://www.freedomscientific.com >>> >>> Or: >>> >>> http://www.hj.com >>> >>> Take your pick, for one, I am finding the item chooser stuff happening here >>> as well, if you do vo+I then type d o w... stick with me, it gets even >>> weirder than item choser stuff... I'm just setting some ground... anyway, >>> if you hit vo+i, then do d o w, you won't get the downloads link, yet if >>> you use vo+U and go to links in the roter, then! do it, it works, then go >>> to jaws for windows screen reading software, then try to find the jaws 12 >>> download link, if you hit vo+space on that link, Safari says the page >>> cannot be found. Now, here's the weird part. If I try this from my xp pro >>> sp3 machine with either I E, or Firefox, then hit enter on the link, same >>> network l A n, same public I P address, same internet connection, etc. same >>> d h c p, same d n s, same router, nothing changes but the platform, the >>> download works like a charm! Let me say this, no jokes. I've had a really >>> rough day, and quite frankly am not in the mood for the smart mouth >>> comments, like, well yeah, Jobs hates FS so he blocked you from the site, >>> or why would you compare jaws to VO, or want to download the fish... you >>> may have a point, but no you really don't, OK. This isn't about one screen >>> reader being better than another. this is about the item chooser, and the >>> router, and the downloading in Safari consistently across many pages be >>> very inconsistently odd in behavior. Take it as such. If you can't offer >>> anything resourcesful and just wanna throw lookie jokes around, look, I'm >>> not tonight as I would normally be, in the mood for it. OK? Please, if >>> you all test and find the same thing, let me know. I'd be interested if >>> anyone knows why the things in Safari have to be so d*** annoying. I'm >>> frustrated yes, the mods could say that and that I need to chill, and I'm >>> willing to, but people, come on! I mean, really, one could argue, I'm not >>> the one who decided to jup into Lion right away. You're right. Perhaps I >>> jumped the gun too soon. But, that really isn't your right to say. The >>> thing is, I'm getting more stressed with the Lion update by the minute. >>> What ticks me off more though is Apple doesn't seem to give a rat's butt >>> one way or another, ar at least it doesn't appear that way, but I'll >>> explain more about that in another more rellavant post. It's making my >>> experience though not very enjoyable, I tell ya that! though. >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.