Hi Teresa, Bryan, and Others,

It is possible to use Find My iPhone (or iPod Touch or iPad) from the MobileMe 
web page on your Mac, although it's easier to use the "Find My iPhone" feature 
on another iOS device that has the free "Find My iPhone" app loaded.  Since 
your information is associated with your login and password, you can use that 
app from any iOS device which has this free app loaded (not just one that you 
own) to find your iPhone, iPod Touch, or iPad. 

Bryan's correct that there's some interaction with the way javascript works on 
the MobileMe site to choose your MobileMe service that seems to generate the 
continuous VoiceOver busy messages. I think this is a result of the way 
MobileMe was re-written in Ajax, which uses javascript to dynamically update 
the screen.  (This is my reconstruction after the fact -- practically speaking, 
I just found that bypassing the selection of which MobileMe service I wanted by 
adding a slash after the MobileMe URL and typing the service name let me get 
onto the site without the VoiceOver busy messages.) John Panarese saved my 
posting of this MobileMe work-around on his "Tips and Tricks for the Mac and OS 
X" page at the MacForTheBlind site:
http://macfortheblind.com/?page_id=195
This (logging in with the "/find" appended) is actually what the help 
information for using "Find My iPhone" directs you to do:
"Go to me.com/find and sign in using your Apple ID email address and password."

Anyway, I'll outline how I access the "Find My iPhone" feature at MobileMe. I'm 
a MobileMe subscriber, but I assume it works the same way for folks who just 
register for "Find My iPhone".

1. Under VoiceOver Utility (VO-F8), I set my "Web" options to Navigate webpages 
by DOM order, and under the options for "When loading a new webpage" I have the 
box for "Move the VoiceOver cursor to it" checked.
2. Use the URL:
http://www.me.com/find
(Press Command-L to highlight the address bar, then type in "me.com/find" and 
press "Return" to go to the MobileMe site where you'll be positioned at the 
login text box)
3. In the login text box type in your username, press tab to move to the 
password text box, then press "Return" to log into the page for "Find My iPhone"
4. On the "MobileMe Find My iPhone" page, with QuickNav on (turned on or off by 
pressing the left and right arrow keys simultaneously), navigate (by pressing 
the right arrow key) to "Devices", then continue to navigate down the list to 
the iOS device you want to locate. There's an entry for the registered device 
(e.g., "Teresa's iPhone", "Esther's iPad", etc., followed by a  location status 
(e.g., "Locating", "Located 1 minute ago", "No location available").
5. Select the device you want to find from the "Devices" list by pressing the 
Up and Down arrow keys simultaneously (with QuickNav on) or with VO-Space. You 
can do this from either the device line or the location status line. The web 
page will update to display a map to the right of the "Devices" list with the 
location of your selected device shown.  This is similar to the way your 
location is shown in the default "Maps" app on iOS devices.
6. Navigate to your selected device in the map view with item chooser menu 
(VO-i). This is the second entry in the list (e.g., if you typed "i p h" and 
got a list of two items, the first "Teresa's iPhone" is the entry in the 
"Devices" list; the second entry is device you found. Arrow down and select it 
by either pressing "Return" or VO-Space.)
7. Activate the selected device either by pressing the up and down arrow keys 
simultaneously (If QuickNav is on), or with VO-Space.
8. Navigate through the options with your Right arrow key.  You'll hear the 
device named (e.g. "iPhone", "iPod Touch", "iPad"), location status (e.g. 
"Located 2 minutes ago"), followed by buttons for "Display Message or Play 
Sound…", "Lock…", and "Wipe…".
9. Activate the button you want by pressing the up and down arrow keys 
simultaneously or with VO-Space. Choosing the button to "Display Message or 
Play Sound…" brings up a dialog window with the box to "Play a sound for 2 
minutes" checked.  Pressing "Return" immediately activates this default 
selection, and will cause the selected device to play sonar pings as though 
from submarine sonar scans for two minutes, or until you find and deactivate 
the message on the screen (assuming your device has battery power left and is 
connected to the internet).  Pressing "Escape" cancels the dialog window. (You 
can also navigate to the "Cancel" and "Send" buttons and press them with 
VO-Space or the Up+Down Arrow key combination).  You can also type in a message 
to be sent and displayed on the screen of your device (e.g. "Please call this 
phone number…").

Comments: I find this all very accessible.  The screen layout is fairly simple, 
and I was actually able to log in and navigate the MobileMe Find My iPhone 
screen in the Atomic Browser app on my iPad to confirm this layout. (For some 
reason Mobile Safari will not let you log into MobileMe pages from iOS 
devices.) I usually allow sufficient time for the device to be located before I 
select if for finding, since that's typically only 10 or 20 seconds. I also 
give the page a few seconds to load the map for the located device after I've 
selected it before trying to send the command to play a sound.  (I haven't 
tried to use either the "Lock" or "Wipe" functions.)  You can navigate to the 
located device with your right arrow key with QuickNav on, too. It's just that 
you'll hear VoiceOver announce a group of odd sounding blocks that are map 
image sections between the end of the "Devices" list and your selected device 
if you do that, but the page is perfectly explorable with VoiceOver navigation. 
Using item chooser menu, which can also be used to find "Devices" in step 4, is 
just slightly simpler and faster.  There's also a button to refresh the page if 
you want to update your devices "Find" action. (I guess this could be useful if 
the iPhone was left in a moving car.)  The map display is purely visual, with 
no coordinate information, but you could do a screen capture, either of the 
entire screen (Command+Shift+3) or just of the browser window, and attach it to 
an email to a sighted friend, asking them to tell you the location. 

HTH. I'd be curious if anyone who also uses a Window screen reader could give 
instructions on how to navigate the "MobileMe Find My iPhone" page based on 
this information.

Cheers,

Esther

 
On Jun 17, 2011, at 18:25, Teresa Cochran wrote:

> Hi again, Bryan and all,
> 
> Just wanted to say that I did get the service set up on my IPod side. The 
> tricky part will be finding it from the Mac.
> 
> Thanks,
> Teresa
> On Jun 17, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
> 
>> Hi Teresa,
>> 
>> I have some bad news and some good news. First the bad. Believe it or not, 
>> Me.com is pretty inaccessible using VO or any screen reader. Esther has 
>> posted some workarounds that can help in some situations. One of Esther's 
>> tips is that it can be less painful to login if you include the specific 
>> section of the me.com site in the address bar as I've included in the 
>> following URL:
>> 
>> www.me.com/findmyiphone
>> 
>> When you get to that site, chances are you will still hear lots of the 
>> dreaded "Safari busy, Safari ready" chatter, but be patient and you should 
>> eventually be able to enter your id and password. I've noticed that it can 
>> take some VO left and right to hit the actual edit fields, and the button 
>> labeled "sign in" sometimes requires routing the mouse cursor to the VO 
>> cursor and then performing the VO-Shift-Spacebar mouse click. I just tested 
>> this and it got me to the "find my iphone" section of the me.com site but I 
>> was not able to find anything useful on that page using VO.
>> 
>> Now for the good news. Aside from the me.com mess, I think you can perform 
>> the actual setup of the "find my ipod" service from your ipod itself. If you 
>> haven't already done so, take a look at the instructions at the following 
>> Apple site for setting this up on an ipod touch: 
>> http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/find-my-ipodtouch-setup/
>> 
>> More good news is that there is an App called "Find my iPhone" that is VO 
>> accessible and runs on an i-device. It will find any i-devices that have 
>> been setup on the "find my i-whatever" service under the ID you use to login 
>> after launching the app. It allows a sighted person to view a map displaying 
>> the approximate location of the i-device in question, and it has fully 
>> accessible functions allowing you to send a text message with or without 
>> sound, change the device's password, or wipe the device. You can even use 
>> the app to test the device you are running it on. Here's a link to the app 
>> in the US App Store:
>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/find-my-iphone/id376101648?mt=8
>> 
>> Hopefully Apple will be replacing me.com with an upgraded and accessible 
>> website as part of the iCloud initiative. I had emailed 
>> accessibil...@apple.com a few months ago and they flat out told me the 
>> me.com site is not accessible with VO or any screen reader, but they offered 
>> no insight into when this situation might be improved.
>> 
>> HTH,
>> Bryan
>> 
>> On Jun 17, 2011, at 9:44 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> I'm actually *hoping I have the wrong URL for the Mobile Me site. I'm 
>>> trying to activate the "find my IPod" service, and when I go to www.me.com 
>>> VO mostly says "busy" and will occasionally read one element on the page. 
>>> Is it just me?
>> 

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