If you insert the disk that has Snow Leopard on it, either the purchased one or 
the DVD that came with your computer, you will find an installer for xCode 3 on 
it.  This should be sufficient.  XCode 4 is needed for development of Lion 
and/or IOS 5 applications, to the best of my knowledge.  

Jon

On Jun 5, 2011, at 9:27 AM, William Windels wrote:

> Hello Zachary and others,
> 
> I have downloaded version 1.9.2, i think from the macports project but when I 
> run the installer, I receive a message like:
> xcode is not installed or was installed wit unix development (10.5+) or 
> commandline support (10.4) deselected.
> 
> I have search after the xcode package and I found xcode4 in the app store for 
> 4 euro.
> 
> Is this the way I should solve that problem?
> 
> Thanx alot for your answer,
> 
> best regards,
> William Windels
> Op 4-jun-2011, om 22:58 heeft Christopher-Mark Gilland het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> I will give that a try.
>> 
>> Chris.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zachary Kline" <zkl...@speedpost.net>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 2:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Chris,
>> Install the Ports infrastructure from macports.org, which is just a .pkg 
>> file you download and run like any other Mac installer.  That automatically 
>> makes the appropriate changes to your .profile file so that you can just run 
>> "port install pianobar".
>> Hope this helps,
>> Zack.
>> On Jun 4, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>> 
>>> So, then, how would I install pianobar
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zachary Kline" <zkl...@speedpost.net>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 1:58 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Maybe a weird question about Terminal
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Chris,
>>> Indeed, you can install Pianobar and run it quite happily.  There are ways 
>>> to make installing most common Unix software almost like apt-get, though 
>>> the latter itself hasn't been ported over I don't think.  Consider sites 
>>> like www.macports.org, which maintains an up-to-date copy of pianobar among 
>>> many other packages, installed via a 'ports' command.
>>> Hope this helps,
>>> Zack.
>>> On Jun 4, 2011, at 10:50 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Seeing that OSX basically at the end of the day under the hood is! believe 
>>>> it or not, a form of Unix, and seeing that it is possible to get to a 
>>>> terminal shell through the Utilities folder in the finder, could one 
>>>> actually run Unix/Linux based CLI apps that don't require a graffic 
>>>> interface?  For example, there is a really nice command line only Linux 
>>>> based Pandora player called pianobar.  It works absolutely flawlessly! 
>>>> Also could one install apt then do things on a mac like apt-get install or 
>>>> aptitude install packagename?
>>>> 
>>>> I know that sounds like a dumb question, but... yeah, I know I could run 
>>>> Linux in a VM machine, or could probably in theory even do it with 
>>>> bootcamp, but I really would rather not, as there's really only like 3 or 
>>>> 4 things from Linux that I'd like to port over.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Chris.
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