Hi Geoff, The Click-to-Flash Safari extension is different from the Click-to-Flash plug-in. With the extension, you don't even let the flash content load into the browser cache at all unless you choose to display it. It's a later development that was inspired by the plug-in. If you use the Click-to-Flash extension, you should either uninstall the Click-to-Flash plug-in, or add "com.apple.Safari" (without the quotes) to the white list for the plug-in. You can download the extension from the Safari Extensions Gallery. Use Control-F2 or VO-M to go to the menu bar, then press "s" or flick right (or VO-Right arrow, or press Right Arrow if QuickNav is on) to the Safari menu item, then arrow down to "Safari Extensions Gallery" and select this (VO-Space or double tap on the TrackPad, or press the Up and Down arrow keys depending on whether you're using standard keyboard input, TrackPad Commander, or QuickNav). Use item chooser menu to find the "Click to flash" heading, then navigate to where you hear "Download Now" and activate the link (VO-Space or use the QuickNav keys or Trackpad).
If you want to read more about this extension, the web page URL is: http://hoyois.github.com/safariextensions/clicktoflash/ and you can also download the extension from that web page as well as read up on the details. Once you have this loaded, you should bring up your preferences menu (Command-Comma), and navigate to the "Extensions" tab. Make sure that enable extensions is checked. Chances are that this is the only extension you have, but flick right to the table of extensions, interact, and select the Click-to-Flash extension from the list. Stop interacting and navigate to the Click-to-Flash extension info group and interact. (I hear "Click to Flash 2.1"). Make sure the check box to enable the extension is checked. VO-Right arrow to the HTML 5 settings. I'll give you the settings that I have that allow me to play the Audible.com audiobook samples. The next four settings should all be checked. These are: "Look for Media Replacements to Flash", "Show list of available sources", "Use playlists", and "Load the media player automatically". It's likely that this last setting is unchecked in your default setup -- you must have this option checked for the Audible samples to play. Now VO-Right arrow to the first pop up button which will be for "Initial behavior" and set this to "Start buffering". (If you set this to "Start buffering and play automatically" when you visit an Audible page with samples, all the samples will start playing simultaneously, which is quite a shock, but at least you know that something is happening!). You're done and you can close the preferences window with Command-W. Now when you visit an Audible page with samples and VO-Right from "sample" you'll encounter an audio element controller. Interact with that, and VO-Right to the play/pause control. If you look for the title link or text with item chooser, VO-Left to the audio element controller. Sorry if the instructions for using this with the Audible page are irrelevant, but I pasted them from an earlier off-list reply that I made to show how this setup works. You can just treat this as the explanation for how my Click-to-Flash extension is currently set. My guess is that this pause may be related to memory usage. I've currently got 8GB (maxed out) memory on this machine. On the older versions of Safari and in earlier versions of the operating system (going back to Tiger), VoiceOver would sometimes pause when there was a text format or element change. In the earlier versions of OS 3.1 on the iPod Touch, when I was first trying to use the Stanza app for ebook reading, I encountered the same thing -- if I hit an italicized word while doing VO-A, VoiceOver would pause. If you use a maintenance app like OnyX (which is free, and pretty good), try also clearing out other system caches and log files periodically. I'll try to think of the other things that I do to optimize my system. I remember that I always wanted to disable "Top Sites" in the browser, because they started adding Preview images of the web pages, and I never use that, so it's a waste of memory resources. I'm not sure I remember how I got rid of this, but I'll try to look up my notes. I did disable this for a recent MacBook Air Safari setup for someone else, but I remember when I wrote down the notes that I couldn't find the same files on the regular MacBook or MacBook Pro. Have you done partition wipes before? You shouldn't have to do any of this. I can count on the fingers of one hand the number of reinstalls of any sort I've had to do in 5 years. We need to get to the bottom of this, as well as the regular VoiceOver "disappearance" that you and others are getting in Mail and elsewhere. I'm not having that problem. I did have this behavior happen twice since I switched to Snow Leopard, but was able to get this back up with VO-F8. In these cases my machine had been up for at least 3 weeks without shutdown, and I had been testing a lot of apps, windows, and configurations (including trying to use an iPhone app to run NumPad commander shortcuts for the Mac while I was moving the mouse to check position; VoiceOver finally started stuttering over that one.) Another random thought: in the older system versions, when we used AppleScript, and had to devise our own scripts to say the time, if you didn't insert a pause in the script so that VoiceOver could stop speaking whatever it was announcing before the script announced the time you didn't get your announcement, because the active VoiceOver announcements would override the AppleScript command to start speaking. So my say time script (written before this was supported under Snow Leopard) has a delay command in it before I use the say command. Snow Leopard is the first OS X version to support AppleScript controls in VoiceOver. I wonder how this contention now gets handled? HTH. Cheers, Esther On Mar 15, 2011, at 11:10, Geoff Waaler wrote: > Hi Bryan and Esther, > > Thanks for testing at your end. Very strange -- both installation of the > click-to-flash plug-in and Safari reader had no impact. Maybe time for > another partition whipe? > > Sounds like its unique to me though. > > Best regards. > Geoff > > > On Mar 15, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > >> Hi Geoff, >> >> It didn't hang for me when reaching the "gnarled ol' wrangler" reference. >> Perhaps VO on your Macbook is offended by the term? <grin>, >> Like Esther, I too have Click to Flash installed with the latest Safari and >> OS. >> >> HTH, >> Bryan >> >> On Mar 15, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: >> I have the latest Safari update installed on my MBP running 10.6.6. When >> attempting to read this column via a two finger flick on the trackpad (VO-a >> on the keyboard), VoiceOver consistently hangs after reading the word: >> "wrangler". I can reproduce this in either group or DOM mode, and clearing >> the cache didn't help. >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
