Hi Jon, Aside from TIm Kilburn, who VOiceOver On Team had do demo; you are only one who has a knowledge of how spreadsheets work and provided anything useful.
I wonder if you have experience with iWOrk Pages and/or KeyNote. VoiceOver On Team had ANne RObertson on to show those two applications. http://VoiceOverOn.podbean.com It would be great to have your thoughts on other aspects of iWork. I'll provide my comments inline. > I believe this was a more complete look. I had wished to see that changes > made would stick. > - THanks for listening, glad you found it to be complete, and you find iWOrk > Numbers accessibility to be lacking. > Some thoughts ffrom somebody that has used Numbers for about one hour... - It doesn't take that much time to figure out, knowledge of spreadsheets certainly helps. > > 1. Mouse clicking on cells is important. - Yes, it is, especially for selecting adjacent and non-adjacent cells, and other functions. VoiceOver does not have proper support here. > 2. It appears that Numbers likes most of the page style to be outside the > spreadsheet area. If one brings up one of the templates provided by Apple, > There are usually text and graphic boxes around the table / tables within the > layout area. - Other templates may result in VOiceOver accessibility issues when working with spreadsheet. > 4. Kevin appeared to be trying to do several things with styles. Header 1, > Header 2, Header 3. are inherited from HTML Where there are several header > levels. Since Tables (and actually Excel 2007 orgreater) want the user to > actually select rows as headers of a table this functionality is probably > better done that way. The other styles that were mentioned appered to be at > the format style of the numbers which Numbers calls something quite different > than Style. - styles attempted include: title, total, heading 1, heading 2, accent 20% etc. These are functional styles, not astetic ones, such as ones found in Numbers. These are not HTML styles. > I would be curious if a blind person could create a text box centered over > the top of a table . - VoiceOver isn't able to see or work with objects of any kind in Numbers. > > One other point... Numbers seems to not be fixed with the idea that the > fifth column is "E" This was something I first saw on the NeXT Operating > System under a Lotus product. Can anybody explain how this works when > starting a new sheet or table? - There are many things Numbers and VOiceOver does not understand about spreadsheets. > > Jon > > Jonathan C. Cohn > jonc...@cox.net > > > > On Feb 20, 2011, at 3:50 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > >> Apple iWork Numbers detailed look: selection, formulas, fills, styles >> and more. http://VoiceOverOn.podbean.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
