Thanks I'll do that.
On 13 Feb 2011, at 02:59, Tom Frank wrote:

> Hello Kawal,
> Remember to double tap every time Navigon puts you into a new edit field. 
> That means the city, street and number. It's kind of annoying but that's VO 
> as far as I know it.
> Tom Frank
> vermont...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 12, 2011, at 6:17 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> Hi Geoff.
>> 
>> I don't know if you are using Navigon a lot, but I do have problems with it 
>> in that if I try and search for an address by putting in all the relevant 
>> information, it won't accept the details as sometimes Voice Over won't go 
>> into the edit boxes.  Have you or anyone else had that problem?  I'm still 
>> using GEO.  I just wish Navigon spoke where you were automatically as you 
>> have to do a lot of flicking whereas GEO just tells you where you are which 
>> I find very important if I'm travelling independently on the busses.  If I 
>> could get Navigon to accept my information then I'd be OK with it.
>> 
>> Kawal. 
>> On 12 Feb 2011, at 06:57, Scott Granados wrote:
>> 
>>> This is a great pointer!
>>> 
>>> Really, thank you I'm going to give this a shot.
>>> 
>>> I recently regained my interest in GPS because I'm up in San Francisco so 
>>> frequently now and there is very solid public transportation up there.  I 
>>> generally cheat and take cabs or have my assistant come up for big projects 
>>> but I'm trying to expand my boundaries.  Pushing one's limits and all that 
>>> sort of thing.
>>> 
>>> I'm interested in anything on this topic so I hope it continues.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 11, 2011, at 9:27 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Greetings Scott G,
>>>> 
>>>> Since you mentioned business location I thought I'd mention the $3.00 app 
>>>> named "WhereTo?" by future tap.  It has a list of categories and results 
>>>> which IMHO absolutely puts geo to shame and more over, the business can be 
>>>> seamlessly passed to either Navigon, TomTom or the built in "maps" app 
>>>> where it launches the preferred "helper app" and sets  the desired POI as 
>>>> the destination
>>>> 
>>>> I can't speak for Garmet or TomTom, but IMHO the POI location feature in 
>>>> Navigon is okay, but you can only get so many pois into a 1.6 GB app.
>>>> 
>>>> The URL for WhereTo? in the US app store is: 
>>>> http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/where-to-discover-your-next/id314785156?mt=8
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards.
>>>> Geoff
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:05 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Scott,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have not had sufficient experience to comment on Garmin. I find that of 
>>>>> the few I have tried including Navigon will get you pretty close, within 
>>>>> 30 feet. I have seen the interface and liked it a lot and I would like to 
>>>>> have someone comment on POIs and if it speaks while in "walking" mode. My 
>>>>> conversation with Garmin was it did not, but I suspect the person I spoke 
>>>>> to did not understand what I was asking and was not willing to check it 
>>>>> out. Of course not having an actual route to walk, I suspect a lack of a 
>>>>> simulation mode might be the problem in that case.
>>>>> Sorry I can't provide more info.
>>>>> Scott
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 11, 2011, at 1:25 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Scott, could you speak more about the Garmin app and it's features as 
>>>>>> they relate to a blind user?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How is it for walking routes?  What sort of features are available.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've used Geo does it have a lot of the business locating features etc?  
>>>>>> How about the walking maps?  Do they tend to put you in the middle of 
>>>>>> parking lots or do they calculate a little to at least put you on the 
>>>>>> sidewalk in front of the building?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  In general, how's the accuracy of the GPS receiver?  I hear it's not 
>>>>>> that great from a sited engineer friend of mine.  He designs GPS 
>>>>>> receivers though so he might be picky.  How well do you find it works?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 11, 2011, at 2:46 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Robert,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Navigon only receives map updates when the app is updated. If you want 
>>>>>>> the most current maps possible, the Garmin app is the way to go. I have 
>>>>>>> not tried Tom TOm, but I find the Garmin interface to be a bit better 
>>>>>>> than Navigon; however, both apps are quite good. I know the most recent 
>>>>>>> version of the Garmin software apparently includes improvements for 
>>>>>>> accessibility, but not sure what exactly those are. I believe either 
>>>>>>> will meet your needs and it may come down to which interface you prefer 
>>>>>>> and if you can live with the data use of Garmin with the understanding 
>>>>>>> the tradeoff is in more current map data. I again cannot speak about 
>>>>>>> Tom TOm since I have never used it. I think the reason you hear more 
>>>>>>> about Navigon and TOm TOm is simply that both have been around a bit 
>>>>>>> longer on the iOS platform.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> hth,
>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 10, 2011, at 11:04 PM, Robert Hooper wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Before even getting into the question I wish to ask on this post, let 
>>>>>>>> me stop and acknowledge that I am indeed aware of the fact that the 
>>>>>>>> word “best”, so often used, is just a four letter word incapable of 
>>>>>>>> nearly anything. With that being said, I will be receiving my iPhone 
>>>>>>>> tomorrow and wish to fill it full of delicious apps. I would like one 
>>>>>>>> of the apps to be a GPS package.
>>>>>>>>               At this point, I have arrived at three possible 
>>>>>>>> conclusions via friends, this list, and the Applevis web site. I am 
>>>>>>>> considering the Garmin app, Navigon, and Tomtom, the latter mainly 
>>>>>>>> because I hear it’s accessible and the primary rival to Navigon. What 
>>>>>>>> are the benefits for each app? Why should I choose one over the other? 
>>>>>>>> I know that the Garmin app doesn’t locally store map information and 
>>>>>>>> the maps are constantly updated as well as traffic and weather 
>>>>>>>> information. How does Navigon compete with this? Are there updates to 
>>>>>>>> Navigon’s maps? Does it provide the same type of information? And what 
>>>>>>>> of Tomtom? Does it store maps locally or are they accessed remotely 
>>>>>>>> like Garmin?
>>>>>>>> Another reason I am undecided is that Garmin looks the most 
>>>>>>>> impressive, yet it is only ever Tomtom and Navigon about which I 
>>>>>>>> hear—so is there some drawback to Garmin which prevents it from 
>>>>>>>> competing on the same level? I read on the Applevis web site that 
>>>>>>>> Garmin is very accessible, as well as Navigon. Any information is 
>>>>>>>> welcome—if I have to have multiple solutions, I guess I could do that, 
>>>>>>>> but it would be much easier just to depend on one.
>>>>>>>> Finally, does it really matter that much which app I decide to use? Is 
>>>>>>>> one essentially as good as the other? Any input would be 
>>>>>>>> appreciated—no matter how lengthy (I would even prefer lengthy 
>>>>>>>> <smile>).
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Robert Hooper
>>>>>>>> hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu
>>>>>>>> The Ohio State University
>>>>>>>> 553 Morrill Tower
>>>>>>>> 1900 Cannon Drive
>>>>>>>> Columbus, Ohio 43210
>>>>>>>> (740) 856-9435
>>>>>>>> 
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