Hi Steph,

        Don't sweat the porn thing.  A lot of it requires a credit card anyway 
so kids won't get far.  If you block off porn using a lot of the standard 
packages you'll block non porn sites that you want them to actually have access 
to.  One example of this is whitehouse.gov.  THere's a whitehouse.com and some 
other white house variants that trigger a filter on whitehouse.gov which kids 
might visit for example for research on the executive branch etc.
        The other factor to consider is if you block it off you create an 
unnatural interest.  I'll just say as a young man nothing got my attention more 
than someone putting a block in the way of something.  I circumvented 
everything ranging from the first scrambled cable channels to military computer 
systems and yes even the child locks on the TV later on.  Like I said, having 
the computer out in the kitchen or living room in front of mom and country 
limits the kids interest in porn anyway hahaha.  
        Understand I'm not questioning your parenting it's just I've owned 2 
ISPs and provided access to thousands of families and schools so it's an issue 
I'm familiar with and I see a lot of companies and individuals cashing in on 
fear that has no basis in reality.  Some good free methods do far better and 
enforce some of the better parts and attitudes in the family.  Enjoy and good 
luck with what ever solution you go with.
  
 
HTH
Scott


On Feb 10, 2011, at 8:28 PM, Stephanie Mitchell wrote:

> Hi scot,
> I have no desire to stop our kids accessing stuff online.  It's the porn and 
> pop up adds i am trying to protect them.  The reason i need to password 
> protect the mac is for my piano studio.
> Thanks for the great tips.
> Steph
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Date sent: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 10:06:09 -0800
> Subject: Re: pass word protection and internet filtering
> 
> Don't bother with Internet filtering, it's a waste of time and diverts the 
> parenting role away from where it belongs.
> 
> Speaking as someone who has raised 3 kids successfully and as someone who has 
> had internet longer than most in the home it's just not worth the aggrivation 
> and it builds a lot of distrust.  Your kids will just figure out how to 
> circumvent the filters and feel they can't talk to you about what they 
> encounter online because you don't trust them enough to give them access to 
> the computer.
> 
> Some strategies that do work really well is don't keep the computer in an out 
> of the way location.  If the computer is in the middle of the kitchen or 
> family room it's less likely they will visit sites they shouldn't because you 
> or your other adult family members can look over the shoulder.
>       Another thing to do is maybe use some logging software.  This way you 
> can see the sites they visit but not have the headache of valid sites being 
> blocked or false positives.
>       More important than all these tips is just talk to the kids.  I realize 
> that's the obvious thing to say but it's worth repeating.  No filtering 
> software can come close to matching the value of open channels of 
> communication.  So save the effort and slap that computer in the family room.
> 
> Thanks
> Scott
> 
> On Feb 10, 2011, at 3:00 AM, Stephanie Mitchell wrote:
> 
> I have a new imac which I will set up on the weekend.  Can i pass word 
> protect it.  also, since i have kids in the house, what internet filtering 
> software is there for the mac?
> Thanks.
> Steph
> 
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