once again South Africa is forgotten. They always say an app is available worldwide, but rarely is it actually true. I have emailed many developers asking why they clame an app is available everyware, when it's just not the case.

Are there anyware we can go to regarding this at apple themselves?

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Howell" <scottn3...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Friday, February 04, 2011 1:35 PM
Subject: Re: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch


Colin,

I have no idea, but it is unlikely. Converting an iOS app to run on the Mac platform is not impossible perhaps, but would not be trivial by any stretch since your talking about a complete change to the interface as far as how you would interact with it. In other words, going from a touch-screen to a keyboard or other input method. There is an accessible chess app on the Mac in the APplications folder. You can choose to have the application speak the moves of the computer.
Scott





On Feb 4, 2011, at 6:29 AM, Colin M wrote:

Hi Scott!
Could Marcel possibly make those Imac apps as well?
Do not want to cause them more headaches but would be interested if at all possible!
All the best!
Colin
Qapla!

Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak

On 4 Feb 2011, at 11:13, Scott Howell wrote:

Hi Jim,

ALthough several of us have been working with Marcel, I have not had a chance to really dig into the games myself, although I did purchase them all. :) I understand the exercises is for player 2 to win in one move. The right or wrong is stated in the top message bar. I will check this out, but Marcel is aware of an issue or two and will be working on these. You would not know this necessarily, but Marcel took a game that was not completely accessible and especially with regard to the game board and made it fully accessible (game board primarily) within two weeks or so. So, there will be issues yet and any feedback is appreciated and please share with Marcel, via this list, or send directly to me, and I will see your issues are presented. Marcel has done something that no one else has and I tried working with another developer of a chess app that cost twice what Chess-Wise Pro costs and he has yet to make his game accessible. Marcel's enthusiasm and interest in making his games accessible speaks volumes about him and his commitment to a quality experience. Now so I don't sound like a salesman, I did purchase these games, I got no free codes or any such thing. However, purchasing any or all of his accessible games will support his efforts and is appreciated. :)

Thanks,
Scott





On Feb 3, 2011, at 8:59 PM, Jim Barbour wrote:

I've been playing with chesswise, and it looks awesome! I'll
definately say so in the app store.

My only question is about the excercises.  The board is accessible,
but the explaination (what to do) appears not to be.  That is, I
couldn't find any text on the screen.  Has anyone played with this?

Well done Bryan, Scott, and of course Marcel!

Jim

On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 08:54:03PM -0500, Bryan Jones wrote:
Greetings All,

Today Apple approved and released the accessible versions of Marcel Nijman's Chess-wise Apps! In addition, Marcel modified three of his other game apps to make them VO accessible. Those Apps are: Checker-wise, Draughts-wise and Xiangqi-wise. These apps are all now available worldwide in the App Store and in the following languages: English, Spanish, Russian, German and Dutch. Marcel hopes to add Polish, Czech and French translations in the next update. The viphone mailing list, Scott Howell and Geoff Waller in particular, were instrumental in providing input, feedback and other information to Marcel during this process.

Each of these four Apps is a universal App, which means they will run correctly on the iPhone, iTouch and iPad. WHile there is a free version of the Chess-wise App, I would urge you to consider purchasing the Pro version to support Marcel's work. The price is only US $2.99 for the Chess and Checker Apps, and only US $1.99 for the Draughts and Xiangqi Apps. I believe Marcel is the kind of developer who deserves our support one hundred percent.

I've not tried the 3 other games yet, but I can tell you the Chessboard and Chess pieces are now recognized and read aloud by VO. You can navigate the board using a one-finger swipe, or you can just slide one finger around the board and VO will announce the coordinates and the name of a piece if one occupies that square. To make a move, use one finger to locate the piece you want to move, then double-tap. VO will announce "Selected." Now use one finger again to locate the destination square and double-tap again. Please note that this is considered a first version of this game in it's accessible form. While Marcel has made the heart of the App accessible, it is a very feature-rich App which will require additional coding to make it fully accessible. Marcel has asked that those of us who use the Apps provide feedback to him so he can continue to refine and update the accessibility features.

Here is a link to Marcel's App Gallery in the US iTunes store:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/marcel-nijman/id337888122

Here is a link to Chess-wise Pro in the US App Store:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-pro/id351303981?mt=8

Here is a link to Chess-wise FREE in the US App Store:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-free/id367318028?mt=8

Cheers,
Bryan

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