Normally, as this is not a mac-related topic, I would not chime in to comment 
on such. However, here we go:
A mod note on this very issue has already been posted, implying (pretty 
directly, by my interpretation of the message) that this topic be closed for 
any further discussion. I would not be surprised if there is another before 
long, the next probably not being so forgiving. We all have our various 
opinions on the subject--and this list doesn't exist as a forum for convincing 
people. It is highly unlikely that anyone will be convinced by anybody else's 
writing on the subject, especially as very few of us know one another and are 
completely anonymous. This can be read about elsewhere on the internet. The 
point is that no matter how much bickering one does regarding cursing on this 
list, nobody will change their opinion. So, the solution is obvious--just cease 
discussing it at all. The words have already flown and discussing it won't 
change it. People curse--occasionally they do it in inappropriate situation; 
this is no different. This isn't any kind of new development being 
discussed--it's a small issue that is being gone over more thoroughly than the 
global warming debate in a left-right wing shoot-out. It's not worth the 
bandwidth, it's off-topic, and the same things are being said over and over. 
Rather than trying to convince one another (which, I repeat, cannot be done 
through this medium of anonymous written communication), just agree that we 
each think differently and drop this topic. I would even be up to a windows vs. 
Mac debate as opposed to this petty nonsense. I feel as if I am wasting my time 
even writing this email to mention it; I have my own opinion on the issue, and 
I appreciate the efforts to educate others on the list, but it's a pointless 
endeavor which will only waste the time of those more patient on this list--and 
I count myself among those numbers. At some point in time, I might have 
indulged my opinion and attempted to "bring people to the light", but you can't 
save the world every time. I enjoy this list for the intelligence and 
innovation it yields, not its admittedly equal and remarkable ability to 
dispute etiquette and keep in mind the social welfare of its members.
Thanks,
Robert Hooper
hooper...@buckeyemail.osu.edu
The Ohio State University
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Colin M
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 2:35 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Cc: Colin M
Subject: Re: bad language was Re: =What the Verizon phone means for Apple

Hi there!
Well Scott you put your case pretty well!
And shock horror no bad words!
Colin
I'm far too bad for Heaven!
The Devil is afraid I'll take his place!

On 12 Jan 2011, at 19:28, Carolyn Haas wrote:

> Hi Scott G:
> You are a true asset here.  But, you already know that.  Can't we just agree 
> to have different opinions?  If you really need to win this one, I'd hate to 
> see you go.  But, perhaps you want to run your own list and keep it as loose 
> as you so desire.
> 
> I beg the mods' pardon for butting in.  But, I would guess we all have better 
> things to do than read poopy language and argue about what constitutes poopy 
> language.
> 
> Go fly your plane and curse at the top of your lungs if you like.  Just don't 
> do it here.
> Thanks you for reading.
> 
> Carolyn H
> On Jan 12, 2011, at 11:33 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> What's reasonable, who's definition of language?
>> 
>> Why does your definition superseed mine?  Why do prudes always want 
>> reasonable when their beliefs aren't and use some sort of artificial moral 
>> high ground to brow beat others in to submission?
>> 
>> What if I objected to the word piano because I had a bad Piano experience as 
>> a child and expected you to be reasonable and not use the word piano?  If 
>> this is acceptable then where does that logic end?
>> 
>> At no time did anyone post anything that violated the FCC rules for over the 
>> air transmition.  Even though I think the FCC is a bunch of stufed suits 
>> that seems like a fairly reasonable template and anyone who objects to 
>> content that fits with in that template is an old fuddy duddy of the highest 
>> order.
>> 
>> Heh
>> 
>> Here's a brilliant idea with a lot of historical backing.  Instead of 
>> silencing someone which is a very common practice in the blind community 
>> lists especially why not use that delete key that's located in the upper 
>> right of your keyboard?  Nobody loses in that situation.  You don't get your 
>> pretty little sensibilities hurt and nobody loses their right to express 
>> themselves.  Live and let live, turn the other cheek, all that mumbo jumbo.
>> 
>> Good times!
>> 
>> On Jan 12, 2011, at 9:40 AM, Marlaina Lieberg wrote:
>> 
>>> I hope the moderators will follow through and move to read-only status 
>>> those persons who continue to disregard the very reasonable requests 
>>> regarding language.  
>>> 
>>> Marlaina, a very happy A T & T customer who has never been treated with 
>>> anything but respect and professionalism by A T & T.
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