I absolutely agree.

My thought is exploits will happen via services that people enable with out the 
appropriate clue just like you see in the Unix world today.  Someone with an 
improperly patched httpd or BIND, that sort of thing.

Nice to see someone with common interests.  I feel like I need backup at work 
functioning in a Microsoft shop heh.  The Unix Admin and I are always locked in 
this argument with the MS heads.

  


On Dec 28, 2010, at 8:29 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:

> Yep, i completely agree with all your points, but...
> 
> All the arguments you pointed out are the ones i myself point out when 
> discussing security with PC owners. The unix base, BSD, posix permissions 
> which are better laid out than windows ACLs, the fact that windows was not 
> initially made for internet communications whereas macs started that way, and 
> the list goes on.
> 
> Yet i can't stop myself from thinking there will be a growing interest in 
> hacking the mac, just for the sake of figuring the system out. I myself am 
> fascinated by what happens under the hood, and reading the handbook which was 
> released over 2 years ago. In the simple propagation of information to all 
> channels via a singularity, there are myriads of groups which will be capable 
> of finding exploits to the systems. It starts with the hackintosh community 
> which make custom kexts for PC hardware. If they can go that low on the 
> system, it won't be much harder to do it on a MAC, unless you or someone else 
> here knows of a chip that levvys all of it.
> 
> Check out mac hacker's handbook and all the levels of kernel exploits that 
> can be made available, and the growing list of bugs with voice over, for 
> example.
> 
> Once again, i prefer caution and informing myself, then prventing spills in 
> my network and computers.
> 
> 
> But then, i never liked those security burnoffs :) 
> 
> 
> I'm just saying this: Better informed and safe than arrogant and sorry :)
> 
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