Hi, Nic,

Sometimes I got the message immediately on getting to the page, and sometimes 
it would happen on different parts of the page. This was on both those pages, 
and some others I frankly can't remember now. Of course, I haven't been using 
Webkit for a couple of weeks, so it may be a moot point now.

Teresa
On Nov 9, 2010, at 11:38 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi Teresa,
> 
> Are there any specific elements that you navigate to at the instance of the 
> crash? If you can tell me which part you manage to get to before you crash, 
> if you click something etc, I'd be happy to know so I can file it and get  it 
> fixed as soon as possible. It's much easier to fix if it can be reproduced of 
> course, which is why I'm asking so we don't have to start analyzing the 
> system configuration step by step. That'd definitely be worthy of private 
> messaging, as I'd have to modify Webkit accordingly and send the update 
> internally to you for testing purposes.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
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> On Nov 10, 2010, at 8:29 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> Well, Nic, it is even more simple than that. On both of those sites, I get, 
>> Webkit has encountered a problem and needs to close. And does it again when 
>> I restart it. As for a trackpad, I'm coveting one, but unable   to get one 
>> just yet.
>> I'm using a Mac Mini.
>> Teresa
>> On Nov 9, 2010, at 11:03 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Teresa!
>>> 
>>> I do not understand the issue you are having. Can you please explain where 
>>> you run into issues with either of these sites, perhaps privately so we 
>>> don't clutter up the list? I see an issue with the first site, but that is 
>>> easily overcome by using the trackpad commander as opposed to the VoiceOver 
>>> keys.
>>> 
>>> This is something that is probably worth mentioning on the list, which is 
>>> why I'm taking the liberty to do so. If you notice odd behavior when 
>>> navigating across a webpage, try using the trackpad if possible. This often 
>>> seems to eliminate any weird issues, such as VoiceOver constantly saying 
>>> "HTML content" even when you are on the site. Of course, if you have a 
>>> Magic Trackpad, this trick works as well.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Nic
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Nic
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>>> On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:00 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Nic,
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, I updated Webkit every time there was an update available.
>>>> 
>>>> The sites Webkit has crashed on for me have been these NHL sites, 
>>>> particularly:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.nhl.com/ice/schedulebyweek.htm#?navid=nav-sch-main
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.nhl.com/ice/m_scores.htm
>>>> 
>>>> Teresa
>>>> 
>>>> On Nov 9, 2010, at 11:55 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm on the developers list for Webkit. I'd be curious to see your crash 
>>>>> reports, as well as extracts from the site which you say causes crashes 
>>>>> in Webkit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> First, do you remember to update frequently? I have never actually seen 
>>>>> Webkit crash, and not even on those sites particularly. I have seen it 
>>>>> once or twice, and I've been using it for more than a year now. I'm 
>>>>> curious about your take on this, as Safari seems to crash much more than 
>>>>> Webkit in my case and seems to work harder to render webpages, especially 
>>>>> certain element types which have been fixed, of course, in Webkit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Nic
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>>>>> On Nov 9, 2010, at 8:40 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Hi folk,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I wanted to bounce a few thoughts around here. I've used both Safari and 
>>>>>> Webkit, and in my own experience, Safari seems much more stable. It does 
>>>>>> have some issues with VO, but those all seem pretty predictable to me, 
>>>>>> and I can work around them by either reloading the page or reloading VO. 
>>>>>> Webkit seems to crash on a fair number of sites, many of which I use 
>>>>>> often. (NHL, MLB, for example).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does anyone on the list work with the developers and Webkit to post bug 
>>>>>> reports, etc.? As far as I can tell, this would be the only reason I can 
>>>>>> see for using webkit over Safari.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What does anybody think?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Teresa
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