> You know, it's messages like yours that really make me realize how lucky I / > we are in the West but the US especially. (at least that's the region I'm > experienced with personally) I can't imagine going to work every day in a > career that was forced on you if you had the right to have one at all. I may > be wrong but it wasn't all that long ago it was like that here. We were > pushed to musicians or piano tuners (not that there is anything at all in the > least wrong with that career choice, Hard work of any kind brings you closer > to "god") but I can't imagine not having the choice to do what I want. I > can't imagine not being an engineer. My family on my father's side has been > engineers or electricians or other technicians of one form or another for > generations. I can't stand authroity as it is I can't imagine how I would > have reacted being forced to do massage or sell pencils or not allowed to > work at all.
Thank you for the reminder. Now only if we could get some better images in the media we'd be set here. > > My colleague, who is married to a Chinese man and has spent time in China, > said that the blind in China are trained since childhood for a career in > massage. Glad to see this isn't their only option. :) > Donna > Best, > Donna > On Oct 25, 2010, at 3:11 PM, Esther wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I was going to reply to Donna off list and suggest that she check the >> wikipedia. The more elegant way to do this is to use the Wikipanion app >> from your iPhone or iPod Touch (under iOS 4 with language rotor). It will >> take you to the regular Wikipedia app entry, but your iPhone will read out >> the bits with Chinese characters in Mandarin. (At least, it does on my iPod >> Touch). The answer in the Wikipedia entry is that there is a system that is >> based on Pinyin entry for initial sound and final sounds, with some ability >> to indicate 4 tones. However, there is a section that describes "Ambiguity >> and future of Chinese Braille" which addresses the issue of the different >> phonetic representations of words. >> >> The issue of Chinese input methods for VoiceOver users came up on the >> viphone list. If you're interested, see my (long) post titled, "Chinese >> Input with VoiceOver on the iPhone [was Re: Chinese VO]" that replied to a >> question/complaint from an iPhone user about the inability of entering >> Chinese text on the iPhone. (This was posted a few days after iOS 4 with >> access to the language rotor was released): >> >> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg24706.html >> >> You're actually better off going to the viphone list and searching for the >> thread Alvin started and his later followup in another thread, but the issue >> of how to input Chinese text with VoiceOver (if we ever get voices for that >> work with VoiceOver on the Mac) is a real one for this list. Incidentally, >> for U.S. and Canadian iPhone users, it's possible to use the Trippo >> VoiceMagix app (or the newer version Trippo Voice Translator Plus, which >> gives you a free app and lets you add on the voice recognition and text to >> speech features through in-app purchase, to get the same thing). To speak >> in English and have the translated text spoken (and written) in Chinese, >> which you could then copy and edit. And since I wrote the linked post, >> Sonico GmbH has added a Loquendo Chinese text-to-speech voice for in-app >> purchase in their iTranslate (free) and iTranslate Plus ($0.99, saves >> history of previous entries) apps for $1.99. (Their male Russian voice is >> also very good.) >> >> HTH. Cheers, >> >> Esther >> >> On Oct 25, 2010, at 08:00, Colin M wrote: >> >>> Hi all! >>> I was a bit curious myself, there is info about Chinese braille on >>> wikkipedia! >>> So it does indeed exist and has been around a while! >>> Just type chinese braille into google and it should be the first option, if >>> you want to have an gander! >>> Colin >>> On 25 Oct 2010, at 18:43, Scott Granados wrote: >>> >>>> Wow that must be a complex braille implementation. I've seen a Japanese >>>> and Chinese typewriter and it's a similar situation with hundreds of keys. >>>> >>>> On Oct 25, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sorry for the ot post, but this is such an international list, I figured >>>>> someone would know the answer. >>>>> >>>>> I'm sitting here having a discussion about chinese braille with a >>>>> colleague. Does anyone know anything about it? Does it exist? If yes, >>>>> how does it work? My colleague--who speaks Chinese was explaining that >>>>> it couldn't just rely on a phonetic symbol system, because the same >>>>> phonetic writing can represent several different words. >>>>> >>>>> Since this is not on topic, feel free to respond off-list, >>>>> goodi...@msu.edu. >>>>> Donna >>>>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
